From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #107 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Tuesday, October 10 2000 Volume 03 : Number 107 In this issue: - Re: Odp: masada in prague ||| Satoko Fujji ||| Re: News for Lulu taj mahal travellers Re: stock, hausen, & walkman Heretic Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #106 Re: Lopez Re: News for Lulu Unheard Music Series Chango Spasiuk Odp: Zorn List Digest V3 #106 matt'n'sig'n'chad'n'susie'n'cyro'n'mat Re: Odp: cool your jets, fogies Re: taj mahal travellers Re: taj mahal travellers RE: Chango Spasiuk Augen Video Re: Cage Seasons Friday the 13th (No Zorn content) Re: taj mahal travellers Re: matt'n'sig'n'chad'n'susie'n'cyro'n'mat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:25:34 -0400 From: Peter Gannushkin Subject: Re: Odp: masada in prague Hello Marcin, Sunday, October 08, 2000, you wrote to me: >> year I was there and caught several Alternativa concerts including >> Ruins. The sound is pretty good there and amphitheater rows let people >> see everything on stage. MG> Do you know maybe wht other bands are playing the festival? thanks for MG> your help, There is no such information yet. - -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: shkin@shkin.com URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 07:36:02 +0200 From: "Rob, the Belgian guy" Subject: ||| Satoko Fujji ||| Zorn-agains, I'm really enjoying Satoko Fujji's "Toward To West". It's with Jim Black and Mark Dresser. Powerfull and beautiful. I just had to share. _ Rob ......<..... || http://www.frontstage.com/rob "The goal is to bring the same intensity to listening as the performer to playing". - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:03:22 EDT From: User384726@aol.com Subject: Re: News for Lulu I've see both Lulu discs at the Tower Records in Downtown Chicago so maybe if you try Tower's web page: http://www.towerrecords.com/ Both discs are wonderful and do a great justice to the hard bop era. Aaron Solomon - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:54:12 +0200 From: "Sen" Subject: taj mahal travellers Has anyone on the list heard the Taj Mahal Travellers' Live in Stockholm 2 CD set? I already have the East Bionic Symphonia LP, which I adore, and the "August 1974" 2CD, which is find just OK. Shall I love the Stockholm one? Thanks in advance, Best wishes, Sen. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:07:00 +0200 From: Dirlack@t-online.de (Bjoern Dirlack) Subject: Re: stock, hausen, & walkman Scott Handley schrieb: > This is interesting and makes me wonder what S,H,&W are like? Nervous, cut-up samples. The records are almost dancable, the concerts are more rougher. All is done with a big humour. I recommend "Oh! What a bag!" (Hot Air) Bjoern. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 20:10:05 EDT From: ObviousEye@aol.com Subject: Heretic heretic is my favorite Naked City record. very moody and frightening, not song oriented like the other albums. ben - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 20:14:02 EDT From: ObviousEye@aol.com Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #106 In a message dated 10/8/00 1:46:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com writes: << a note on the contents of the disc: as marcin noted, it's all (free) improv. what's nice is that the linup varies from track to track, so you get duos, trios, quartets, etc. this provides a bit of variety to the proceedings. >> I thought everything on Heretic was composed...i read that in either an interview or commentary on the album. ben - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 21:24:00 -0400 From: Mathieu Belanger Subject: Re: Lopez Hello, >The Lopez concert I attended in Chattanooga, TN A few months ago was also >mesmerizing. Loud, detailed sound with no feeling of threat or aggression. >And absolutely no pain in the ears. Also, more than just my ears and head >the sound also moved down into the chest area and then to the legs. I could not feel the sound in my chest and legs, but the ground of the old Darling Foundry was shaking a lot. The walls were also probably shaking, but nothing fell from the 20 meters high ceiling!! >Also that there was nothing to watch as far as his performance. The same thing happened. However, they brought the concept further and distributed some headband so that the audience would be blindfolded. To make sure nobody would have something to look at, Lopez played under a kind of tent made with a black sheet. By the way, anybody knows what he is using to create these huge sound? I am curious to now what part of the sound is associated with the silo. Tschuss, Mathieu - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 22:43:46 -0400 From: Ian Farrell Subject: Re: News for Lulu or try the downtown music gallery in manhattan... they can get anything! (bruce the owner is even part of the scene) http://www.dtmgallery.com/ > From: User384726@aol.com > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:03:22 EDT > To: spillane10@hotmail.com > Cc: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: News for Lulu > > I've see both Lulu discs at the Tower Records in Downtown Chicago so maybe if > you try Tower's web page: > http://www.towerrecords.com/ > Both discs are wonderful and do a great justice to the hard bop era. > > > Aaron Solomon > > > > - > - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 03:34:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Les Henderson Subject: Unheard Music Series I was just wondering what other people on the list think about the Unheard Music Series that is being released by Atavistic. I just received the Han Bennink album "Nerve Beats", Leo Cuypers' "Heavy Days Are Here Again", Sven-Ake Johansson's "Schlingerland/dynamische Schwingungen". I have only had a chance to listen through most of the Bennink album, but I like it a lot. I personally enjoy both his record music and his performance with antics, etc. I have only seen him twice with ICP, but I liked his performance as much as any of the other musicians, just a bit more comical generally. I would like to hear what other people on the list think of these and other albums in the series. BTW If people are still paying attentiion to the demographics stuff on the list, I am a 21 year old male college student who mostly listens to rock and jazz. Les Henderson ljhender@midway.uchicago.edu - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 11:06:56 -0400 From: Brian Olewnick Subject: Chango Spasiuk Love this guy's work on Cyro Baptista's Avant release. According to AMG, he's got a disc called "Polkas di Mi Tierra", which I'm guessing means it's made up of Brazilian polkas. I need to hear this! Is anyone able to provide further descriptions? Thanks. Um, I'm assuming Chango's a guy from the pic in the Baptista disc, but I'm not absolutely sure, having never encountered any Chango's and given the photo's vagueness. I'm also assuming, surname notwithstanding, that (s)he's Brazilian. Brian Olewnick - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:30:34 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Zorn List Digest V3 #106 From: > I thought everything on Heretic was composed...i read that in either an > interview or commentary on the album. I'm almost sure that you're not right. In the soundpieces interview JZ speaks about the NC albms, and he mentions the improv one (which one if not heretic?). In the sameinterview he speaks of torure garden as fully notated music. So that's where the confusion may come from. Marcin Gokieli marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:22:03 -0500 From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com Subject: matt'n'sig'n'chad'n'susie'n'cyro'n'mat >>Sigmund, no one wants you around here anymore. >>No one here gets frustrated about differences of opinion. >>We're all thornless roses around here you prick. now that i know this was meant as a joke, it's funny! >>I think there's a new cd out on Avant with Dr. Chad , Joe Morris, Mark >>Dresser, and a drummer who's name I forgot. that would be the great susie ibarra, who lends much to the set. pascal also mentioned nping her 'flower after flower', which i'm yet to hear. any thougts? >>BEAT THE DONKEY. should i spend the cat food money on it or not? haven't heard the cd it it's out, but this is a live band no doubt! tonna fun. Pascal also mentioned a mat maneri trio album of 'tone diali ng' covers. i guess this means ornette. what is this? i'm unawares. kg, who seeing a(nother) laswell war brewing is glad to know he'll be sitting it out. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:23:15 -0500 From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com Subject: Re: Odp: cool your jets, fogies journey to the end of the night. didn't they base an afternoon drama serial on this book? kg _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Odp: cool your jets, fogies From: "Marcin Gokieli" at INTERNET-MAIL Date: 06.10.2000 8:59 Uhr - ----- Original Message ----- From: > meanwhile, i'm now reading celine and spent last night and this morning which one? Marcin Gokieli marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:33:03 +0200 From: "Friedrich Kapitzke" Subject: Re: taj mahal travellers I heard a Taj Mahal concert in Berlin last thursday and was quite dissapointed about the boaring performance with a lausy guitarplayer in a low quality blues band. Friedrich. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sen" To: Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 9:54 PM Subject: taj mahal travellers > Has anyone on the list heard the Taj Mahal Travellers' Live in Stockholm 2 > CD set? I already have the East Bionic Symphonia LP, which I adore, and the > "August 1974" 2CD, which is find just OK. Shall I love the Stockholm one? > > Thanks in advance, > > Best wishes, > > Sen. > > > - > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:30:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Handley Subject: Re: taj mahal travellers - --- Friedrich Kapitzke wrote: > I heard a Taj Mahal concert in Berlin last thursday > and was quite > dissapointed about the boaring performance > with a lausy guitarplayer in a low quality blues > band. Um...I think that's the blues singer Taj Mahal, not the 70s Japanese psyche collective Taj Mahal Travellers. I very recently sprung for the STOCKHOLM 1971 disc, and I've listened to it only about once. EVeryone I've talked to like AUGUST 1974 (P-Vine re-issue) quite a bit more, so I'd venture to say you'd be disappointed; but how can you tell? The whole album is almost two hours long, very much the drone record. Some remarkable moaning (processed/delayed vocals), what sounds like extended technique on a contrabasse, and assorted wind instruments, etc. The packaging is standard 2CD case, but sucks (too low budget for the price). Honestly, I think your money would be better spent on some Morton Feldman, but each to his own. I just ordered AUGUST 1974 about a week ago, perversely; hope I like it. (Damn! Compulsion.) I went to see the cheeze-metal band Fiehouse years ago; instead, the show was fIREHOSE with Mike Watt. I was scarred/changed for life. - -----s, "Who are these freaks?!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:44:08 -0300 From: "Hugo Linares" Subject: RE: Chango Spasiuk Hi Brian and rest of Listmembers, >Love this guy's work on Cyro Baptista's Avant release. According to AMG, >he's got a disc called "Polkas di Mi Tierra", which I'm guessing means >it's made up of Brazilian polkas. I need to hear this! Is anyone able to >provide further descriptions? Thanks. Um, I'm assuming Chango's a guy >from the pic in the Baptista disc, but I'm not absolutely sure, having >never encountered any Chango's and given the photo's vagueness. I'm also >assuming, surname notwithstanding, that (s)he's Brazilian. > >Brian Olewnick > >- > Spasiuk is a brilliant accordion player, who deserves a wider recognition. "Polcas de mi Tierra" was released on Acqua Records last year, and it's a fine and rewarding recording. Liner notes refers to "Polcas..." as "a reassesment of a century of Ucranian immigrants folkmusic as seen within cultural context of the Province of Misiones". Spasiuk was born in a small city called Apostoles, Province of Misiones and he says that Polcas "incorporates current and esential melodies from my home and land. They are part of the unwritten history of our regional music, and of the present of our regional music. It is my personal vision of the man and woman who inhabit the farmstead: humble, and with a deep spirituality, joy and tenderness." Don't miss this record because it's fantastic and superb. You will get some information (Spanish, sorry) at: www.changospasiuk.com.ar If you can get the CD, please let me know privately and I'll manage. Hope this helps. Hugo Linares - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 15:53:39 -0700 From: Chris Westphal Subject: Augen Video Is anyone familiar with Augen Video of Japan? I'm looking for some contact info for them so I can inquire about a video that they offer that I can't seem to find (tried forcedexposure already among others). FYI Augen features several videos of experimental/improv/etc artists mainly from Japan. Just to add some Zorn connection to this whole e-mail, they have a video of Jon who has a CD out on Tzadik. Feel free to contact me off list - c np: pluramon - Render Bandits - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 23:18:14 -0400 From: stephen drury Subject: Re: Cage Seasons At 11:02 PM 10/3/00 -0600, marco wrote: >by chance does anyone have an opinion re the ecm 2000 release seasons (cage) >thanks in advance it's a beautiful performance of the orchestral version of Seasons (Dennis Russell Davies is conductor; he recorded the same work for the first time about 30 years ago) and also of the number piece for orchestra. unfortunately, Margaret Leng Tan's recording of the prepared piano concerto on the same disc is handicapped by insufferably lousy recording quality - the recording engineer is an insufferable and incompetent goon (I know, he's the same guy that recorded me&Dennis doing Zorn's piano concerto, some of the worst piano sound on CD i've ever heard) and not a nice person. - --steve check out the cool new stuff on http://www.stephendrury.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:57:14 EDT From: "ajda snyder" Subject: Friday the 13th (No Zorn content) The Binge Purge series continues with another innovator on Friday October 13th. The guest is a fascinating man - Scott Dakota. We will be on WMBR 88.1FM in Cambridge, MA from 2-4PM EST. Or listen in at . Scott Dakota, Musician, Researcher and Seeker, finds focus in remembering that the word "philosopher", coined by Pythagoras in pre-classical Greece, does not translate as "one who claims to be wise", but as "one who loves wisdom" (philo = love, Sophia = Goddess of wisdom / learning / arts). Scott has been a multi-media artist from a very young age, adding music around age 15. Upon encountering C.G. Jung's work on depth psychology and archetypes at age 12, he rapidly embarked on an intensive program of meditation and consciousness self-exploration, which is still ongoing. He graduated with high honors with a degree in Psychology and Music, and has been working for many years as a well-respected music instructor and consultant. Recent years have been devoted to researching and exploring a synthesis of knowledge from the ancient Sumerian, Egyptian, Vedic (India), and Pythagorean Greek unified mathematical / musical / spiritual sciences with the exciting new progress in quantum physics, consciousness research and complex non-linear systems theory. He is not just interested in passive armchair contemplation of these matters, but in full active ignition and exploration of new and expanded reality paradigms. Scott also invents, builds (or rebuilds) most of the instruments he uses in The Moors and in his own sonic / consciousness music. He also extensively modifies his effects and electronics. Rather than traditional Western European classical music theory based on 12 equally spaced notes per octave, Scott has revived and updated the ancient practice of using and relating musical pitches as whole number ratios of vibrational frequencies. The modern term for this is extended just-intonation. This helps to make consonances more satisfying, dissonances more nuanced, makes available many more than 12 notes per octave (each with distinctly vivid flavours) and greatly intensifies the psycho-acoustic trance properties of sound overall. Bio courtesy of http://www.drawbridge.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 22:06:39 -0700 From: Jim Flannery Subject: Re: taj mahal travellers Scott Handley wrote: > I very recently sprung for the STOCKHOLM > 1971 disc, and I've listened to it only about once. > EVeryone I've talked to like AUGUST 1974 (P-Vine > re-issue) quite a bit more, so I'd venture to say > you'd be disappointed; but how can you tell? FWIW, I haven't heard the '74 set but I've been enjoying the '71 set quite a bit; probably the nearest touchstone I can come up with is Tangerine Dream's _Zeit_ (the one with cellos & no rhythms, if you only know their later stuff); as Scott says, quite the drone record, but with a fair amount of stuff going on if you pay close attention. The packaging isn't much (hey, personnel listings are cheap but they ain't here) but sound & performance are worth the investment. Now I *really* haveta get that '74 set ... - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Flannery newgrange@sfo.com "My hair has grown thin thinking of music." -- I Wayan Lotring - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:48:27 +0200 From: Pascal Cortes Subject: Re: matt'n'sig'n'chad'n'susie'n'cyro'n'mat Kurt Gottschalk wrote: >pascal also >mentioned nping her 'flower after flower', which i'm yet to hear. any thougts? Sorry, I won't have time enough to write a review today, but certainly, this will be in my top10 of the year (of course, I haven't heard everything, though). You can find reviews of "Flower after Flower" at: - - allaboutjazz.com ( http://www.allaboutjazz.com/REVIEWS/r0700_021.htm - - One final note http://www.tc.umn.edu/~holt0108/ibarra_flower.html (I've been there previously but cannot acces this page today, you can try anyway....) - - I've seen also that a thread was started yesterday in the record review section of the Jazzcorner forums (http://www.jazzcorner.com/speakeasy/).... but the thread isn't really successful (2 messages now). >Pascal also mentioned a mat maneri trio album of 'tone diali >ng' covers. i guess this means ornette. what is this? i'm unawares. Yes, it's the Mat Maneri trio covering Ornette's Tone Dialing. The album is Fifty-one Sorrows, on Leo records, with Maneri (Baritone violin), Randy Peterson (dms), Ed Schuller (b). Tone Dialing appears twice on the album (alternate takes). The other tracks are Maneri's. I haven't heard this one yet, but I ordered it from Fnac.com last week, so...... I may receive it within... say, one month ? You can find it at any decent online store... For a review: allaboutjazz.com (http://www.allaboutjazz.com/REVIEWS/r0100_092.htm). All the best, Pascal. - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #107 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". 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