From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #188 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Wednesday, December 6 2000 Volume 03 : Number 188 In this issue: - RE: Gabriel Garcia Marquez Re: Looking for books/medeski,marin & wood RE: Tim Sparks (was"Neshamah" on Tzadik) Re[2]: Looking for books/medeski,marin & wood RE: Looking for books/medeski,marin & wood García Márquez |hoax| RE: Tim Sparks (was"Neshamah" on Tzadik) Chris Mcgregor medeski,marin & wood Re: Fwd: Gabriel Garcia Marquez Re: Chris Mcgregor Re: Looking for books/medeski,marin & wood web address for Merkin Concert Hall-NYC? Re: web address for Merkin Concert Hall-NYC? Joe Morris and Chicago Re: Joe Morris and Chicago Fw: [CV] Moonraker classic rock Re: gracias marquez Eye/JapanBluegrass Re: Eye/JapanBluegrass Re: Eye/JapanBluegrass Re: Eye/JapanBluegrass Motion Poetry ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:45:25 -0500 From: Maurice Rickard Subject: RE: Gabriel Garcia Marquez At 5:22 PM +0100 12/5/00, Diego Gruber wrote: >I'll just paste the >article in Spanish, sorry for those who won't understand but the main point >is summarized on the lines above (and i agree it's off topic, but i guess it >had to be cleared): English language info can be found here: http://www.themodernword.com/gabo/gabo_news.html#Anchor-49575 http://sports.latimes.com/news/20000601/null/990601.5281.html (Why the "sports" server, I don't know.) - -- Maurice Rickard http://mauricerickard.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 16:54:41 -0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Re: Looking for books/medeski,marin & wood > > Does anybody know what other books have anything about creative > > music in general and John Zorn particularly? Like someone mentioned, "Arkana" which Zorn put together is essential reading. One of the best books about music I have ever come across. I think Zorn mentions that most of the people who writes in it chose music as their form of expression, instead of writing, so some of it might be a bit "rough". True. But I much prefer this to the perfectionist-but-empty-and-boring writing of many critics. The book is worth the price alone for Marc Ribots contribution. Very funny and extremely well-written. I wish he would quick some of his more mundane studiosessions (James Carter aaarrgghh) and start writing more. But really, that's just one of many highlights. Slightly related: how is the new Medeski, Martin & Wood? I see Ribot is playing on it. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 17:00:34 -0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: RE: Tim Sparks (was"Neshamah" on Tzadik) > > I dont' remember anybody's comments about Tim Sparks' "Neshamah" album > > released last year by Tzadik in the Radical Jewish Culture series. > > IMHO, this album is great! Just solo acoustic guitar playing > > beautifull traditional melodies. Tim's technique is excellent, I could > > bet he did overdubbs in few tracks, but it's just him, playing with 5 > > fingers of his right hand. Overdubs, really? I don't think so. Which tracks are you thinking about? But seconded, this is great! One of the best Tzadik CDs so far. I'm going to pick up "Tanz" soon, even the few clips I heard were a bit too "muzakky" for my taste. ARTHUR_G _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:20:46 -0500 From: Peter Gannushkin Subject: Re[2]: Looking for books/medeski,marin & wood Hello Arthur, Thanks to everybody answered my question about books. New MMW album is good. It is more heavy and funky, but it is also more free. Although it doesn't probably have many remarkable melodies, it has improvisations that sound really fresh. There are several guests on it including Marshall Allen. Tuesday, December 05, 2000, you wrote to me: >> > Does anybody know what other books have anything about creative >> > music in general and John Zorn particularly? AG> Like someone mentioned, "Arkana" which Zorn put together is essential AG> reading. One of the best books about music I have ever come across. AG> I think Zorn mentions that most of the people who writes in it chose music AG> as their form of expression, instead of writing, so some of it might be a AG> bit "rough". True. But I much prefer this to the AG> perfectionist-but-empty-and-boring writing of many critics. AG> The book is worth the price alone for Marc Ribots contribution. Very funny AG> and extremely well-written. I wish he would quick some of his more mundane AG> studiosessions (James Carter aaarrgghh) and start writing more. AG> But really, that's just one of many highlights. AG> Slightly related: how is the new Medeski, Martin & Wood? I see Ribot is AG> playing on it. - -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: shkin@shkin.com URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 15:26:48 -0300 From: Linares Hugo Subject: RE: Looking for books/medeski,marin & wood Hi, > Slightly related: how is the new Medeski, Martin & Wood? I see Ribot is > playing on it. > [Linares Hugo] IMHO, the new MMW (The Dropper/ Blue Note) is probably the most cutting-edged with a free "taste" I've listened to from this band; Medeski is in great shape and Martin beats hard on percussion mostly. The track where Ribot plays (Bleu Note or Note Bleu, sorry I can't remember) is the most accessible and melodic in the whole album so far, and a pretty good composition. Hope this helps Hugo Linares - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:31:11 -0800 (PST) From: jason tors Subject: García Márquez |hoax| http://www.themodernword.com/gabo/gabo_news.html#Anchor-49575 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:09:59 +0100 From: "Artur Nowak" Subject: RE: Tim Sparks (was"Neshamah" on Tzadik) Hi Philozorners, > > > Tim's technique is excellent, I could > > > bet he did overdubbs in few tracks, but it's just him, > playing with 5 fingers of his right hand. > Overdubs, really? I don't think so. Which tracks are you > thinking about? I'm not saying he did any overdubbs, but he plays in intensively with the right hand, that it sounds like miltiple guitars. I got his last a lbum recently, it's beutifull, my only complaint is that Baptista and Cohen play to "conventionally", I thought they will bring some improvi sation in, or some "variations" to Sparks arrangements, which on the f irst records were made without any improvisation. To my suprise, now S parks does improvis, but Cohen and Baptista just play straight section . __________________________________________________________________ Artur Nowak [arno at emd dot pl] www.emd.pl - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:13:09 -0400 From: mwoodwor Subject: Chris Mcgregor Hi there, sorry I missed this thread a couple of weeks ago. In regards to Chris McGregor and the Brotherhood of Breath/Blue Notes etc. I have a great CD that nobody mentioned of Chris McGregor and the Castle Lager Big Band called 'Jazz - the African Sound,' From Sept 1963 on "Teal" records. Does anyone know what the B.O.B album listed on Amazon with archie Shepp is like???? Thanks, Mike w np Bill Dixon - new one on FMP with Oxley and two bass players - I'll be playing it next year when people come around for Halloween, Hell of a good album - track 2 smokes (smolders is more of an accurate description). "I didn't come here, and I'm not leaving" - Willie Nelson. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 15:30:07 EST From: Stinkipipi@aol.com Subject: medeski,marin & wood i think big-ups go to scott harding, their producer, as well. not that mm&w aren't the main reason for stellar performances.... dave bill laswell,mick harris,eraldo bernocchi and lori carson discographies : http://www.geocities.com/slntwtchr - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 20:37:46 -0000 From: "Bill Ashline" Subject: Re: Fwd: Gabriel Garcia Marquez My apologies to the list. I had gotten the text from a normally quite reliable source. But I see the Mexican and Peruvian dailies were also duped, so I don't feel quite so bad. B. Ashline _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 13:04:57 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" Subject: Re: Chris Mcgregor On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:13:09 -0400 mwoodwor wrote: > > Hi there, sorry I missed this thread a couple of weeks ago. In regards to > Chris McGregor and the Brotherhood of Breath/Blue Notes etc. I have a great > CD that nobody mentioned of Chris McGregor and the Castle Lager Big Band You are lucky! I have never seen that one. Does anybody know if somebody carries it? > called 'Jazz - the African Sound,' From Sept 1963 on "Teal" records. Does > anyone know what the B.O.B album listed on Amazon with archie Shepp is > like???? Archie Shepp does not play on the record of which they show the sleeve (which is the sleeve of the first BoB on Neon, recently reissued). But there is effectively a BoB on a French label with Shepp, but something you can live without, specially if you don't have the other ones. Patrice. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:06:20 EST From: Eriedell@aol.com Subject: Re: Looking for books/medeski,marin & wood From what i remember there is about a fifteen page bio and interveiw with zorn in Howard Mandel's book Future Jazz. I can't remember what else is in it, but at the time it didn't seem to be worth the hardcover price. It is now it softback, though. ~eriedell In a message dated 12/5/00 11:55:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, a_gadney@hotmail.com writes: << > > Does anybody know what other books have anything about creative > > music in general and John Zorn particularly? Like someone mentioned, "Arkana" which Zorn put together is essential reading. One of the best books about music I have ever come across. I think Zorn mentions that most of the people who writes in it chose music as their form of expression, instead of writing, so some of it might be a bit "rough". True. But I much prefer this to the perfectionist-but-empty-and-boring writing of many critics. >> - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 18:38:53 EST From: Drivymovie@aol.com Subject: web address for Merkin Concert Hall-NYC? Does anyone know the addess for Merkin Hall website? I'd like to check out what events are scheduled there (I know Denman Maroney is playing there in January with Mark Dresser, Kevin Norton, and Dave Ballou), but I did a search, and nothing came up. Thanks in advance! - -Evan - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 18:45:22 -0500 From: Peter Gannushkin Subject: Re: web address for Merkin Concert Hall-NYC? Hello Evan, Check it here: http://ekcc.org/merkin.html. Tuesday, December 05, 2000, you wrote to me: Dac> Does anyone know the addess for Merkin Hall website? I'd like to check out Dac> what events are scheduled there (I know Denman Maroney is playing there in Dac> January with Mark Dresser, Kevin Norton, and Dave Ballou), but I did a Dac> search, and nothing came up. Thanks in advance! Dac> -Evan Dac> - - -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: shkin@shkin.com URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 21:59:34 -0500 From: "Toula Ballas" Subject: Joe Morris and Chicago Hello, I read recently of a recording of Eugene Chadbourne and Joe Morris where Joe says this is amongst his most favorite recordings he has ever done. When this will be released is anyone's guess. I want to solicit comments on the obvious rift between AACM members here in Chicago and the local avant guys (ie: Vandermark, Lonberg Holm, Jeb Bishop and all the rest.) From what I can tell these two factions seems to keep there distance. With the exception of Hamid Drake (who transcends all human experience) and Jeff Parker, there seems to be very little interplay between AACM and the "white" avant scene. Fred Anderson (who is the proprietor of the Velvet Lounge) also crosses the divide but it seems mostly when its in his monetary interest to do so. AACM uses the expression "Great Black Music" and I'm sure this has been a topic of conversation between numerous folks associated with creative music in Chicago. Kahil El Zabar recently had to defend himself about not introducing Ken Vandermark at the Lester Bowie memorial concert. Chicago has matured from when I lived here in 90' to 93'. Jim O'rourke, who recently stated "nobody seems to be taking chances in Chicago anymore" and "everybody now seems to be professionals" is telling. Any comments, Paul - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 22:12:44 -0500 From: Steve Smith Subject: Re: Joe Morris and Chicago > I read recently of a recording of Eugene Chadbourne and Joe Morris where Joe > says this is amongst his most favorite > recordings he has ever done. When this will be released is anyone's guess. Paul: It's been out for a few months now. It's called 'Pain Pen' and also features Mark Dresser and Susie Ibarra. It's on Avant, Zorn's Japanese label, so you should be able to find it easily - it'll just cost a few dollars more. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - Matt Moran, "Slugging a Vampire," 'Sideshow - Songs of Charles Ives' (CD-R, February release on CRI) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:58:03 +1030 From: "sinkas" Subject: Fw: [CV] Moonraker I just found this on the Ipecac site in the news section. I guess it = was luck I looked there just as this had been posted: |=20 | 12/05/2000 - Here is what might be a once in a lifetime show! We have = just confirmed Moonraker at the Knitting Factory LA on Dec 18th, that's = right the day after Fant=F4mas. Moonraker will consist of Mike Patton, = Dj Eddie Def & Buckethead!!!!!! opening act to be named soon. tickets on = sale soon.=20 |=20 | I don't think I even need to ask if anyone will be recording this for = those of us not in the US. | Later, | Cameron. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 22:05:41 -0600 From: "samuel yrui" Subject: classic rock classic rock. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 00:30:09 EST From: Acousticlv@aol.com Subject: Re: gracias marquez In a message dated 12/5/00 12:22:12 PM, you wrote: <> man, that clearly was one a dem internet spoof thingies from the gitgo. uno ciego puede verlo! he'd never write something so mawkish..puhleez. steve koenig np: matt shipp w/ leo smith (thirsty ear) - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 08:17:31 -0600 From: "samuel yrui" Subject: Eye/JapanBluegrass
"and Yamamoto on guitar he arrived from the Kansai bluegrass scene and shredded all opposition with straight and twisted technique) "
 
  this quote is from the Wish You Were Hideous interview... got it on internet. 
   is this true that Eye came from a japanese bluegrass scene?  and why was i not informed that there is such a thing?  where can i learn more about this?
 
  -samuel
 
 

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- - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 02:04:30 +1100 From: "Julian" Subject: Re: Eye/JapanBluegrass Are you implying that this Yamamoto guy is Eye, as in the Boredoms guy? His name changed around a bit, but it was never Yamamoto... > "and Yamamoto on guitar he arrived from the Kansai bluegrass scene and shredded all opposition with straight and twisted technique) " > > this quote is from the Wish You Were Hideous interview... got it on internet. > is this true that Eye came from a japanese bluegrass scene? and why was i not informed that there is such a thing? where can i learn more about this? - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 11:22:12 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Waxman Subject: Re: Eye/JapanBluegrass Gee, Sam, I don't know why no one "informed" you. Is your e-mail address in general circulation? If so, then it should be easy for music makers to "inform" you every time there's a new genre of music with which you're not familiar. Have you already posted those genres *you* do know about? Knowing that, it will be easier for musical explorers to contact you with the latest genre names before they start playing them. Ken Waxman - --- samuel yrui wrote: is this true that Eye came from a japanese bluegrass scene?  and why was i not informed that there is such a thing? - - _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 12:56:28 -0500 From: "Richard Allen" Subject: Re: Eye/JapanBluegrass Yamamoto is Yamamoto Seiichi, the main guitar player in Boredoms. He also has a million other projects. - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Julian" To: "samuel yrui" , Subject: Re: Eye/JapanBluegrass Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 02:04:30 +1100 Are you implying that this Yamamoto guy is Eye, as in the Boredoms guy? His name changed around a bit, but it was never Yamamoto... > "and Yamamoto on guitar he arrived from the Kansai bluegrass scene and shredded all opposition with straight and twisted technique) " > > this quote is from the Wish You Were Hideous interview... got it on internet. > is this true that Eye came from a japanese bluegrass scene? and why was i not informed that there is such a thing? where can i learn more about this? - - _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:17:39 -0500 From: Peter Gannushkin Subject: Motion Poetry Hello All, Was anybody except me at the Knit yesterday? where Pavone/Musillami presented their new album? The music was good but I couldn't stop thinking that it was Pavone trio with the special guest who didn't really fit in the ensemble. Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: shkin@shkin.com URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #188 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? Email the list owner at zorn-list-owner@lists.xmission.com