From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #441 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Thursday, May 24 2001 Volume 03 : Number 441 In this issue: - Re: Otomo Yoshihide's Free Jazz Quartet Odp: Polish prog (was: KC alumni association) Odp: Playing inside the piano Re: Odp: Playing inside the piano Re: Odp: Playing inside the piano Re: Cobra Releases Victoriaville???? Re: Victoriaville???? Sun Ra Tribute in Seattle this wkend (5/25-26) Re: Victoriaville???? ZORNGEM C Re: Victoriaville???? Viva La Musique!!! Victoriaville!!! Urgent! ...new Vision lineup ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 02:04:14 EDT From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: Re: Otomo Yoshihide's Free Jazz Quartet In a message dated 23/05/01 00:03:15 GMT Daylight Time, Dgasque@aol.com writes: << I was a bit upset that Yoshihide doesn't challenge my senses a bit more here. >> = [equals] "O! Yoshihide, if I were you, then I'd do it as though you were me!" Trouble is, he isn't - he's Yoshihide, doing what Yoshihide wants to do at 'that moment in time'! Gigi Pidienti jatafysikal@hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 01:56:10 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Polish prog (was: KC alumni association) - ----- Original Message ----- From: > How about SBB? I've not picked up any of their CDs, but their stuff is plentiful on Napster. I'm pretty amazed over what I've heard from the band... Well, they were quite popular here. If one likes dynamic prog -fusion - rock, it may be really ok sometimes. Kind of ELP in a more dynamic and less pretetious way. I've got enough of such stuff Marcin Gokieli marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 02:01:05 +0200 From: "Marcin Gokieli" Subject: Odp: Playing inside the piano - ----- Original Message ----- From: Antonio MartXn > You can hear them too, in "Civilization Phaze III" Can anyonetell nme where can I get that disc? - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 02:04:18 -0700 From: Skip Heller Subject: Re: Odp: Playing inside the piano > ----- Original Message ----- The score of the film BABY DOLL (music by the great, under-appreciated Kenyon Hopkins) has some kind of prepared piano in the "Nightmare" cue. skip h - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:43:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Matt Plummer Subject: Re: Odp: Playing inside the piano > > Can anyonetell nme where can I get that disc? > > > - > Well, supposedly its available only from the Zappa estate through mail-order or something, but I've seen around in record stores before. it won a grammy for best album (graphical) design. not that thats relevant to the music, necessarily. matt plummer - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 16:32:12 +0200 From: "Andreas Dietz" Subject: Re: Cobra Releases >From: "Efrén del Valle" > >Also, a studio version of "Cobra" was released through the Hathut label. I >think it is out of print but it appears among the upcoming Hat re-releases >for 2001. the studio version is in print as a single CD (Hat 60401) Andreas _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:52:23 -0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Victoriaville???? hey guys!! what about some comments on Victoriaville? I know some of you went. How was Frith,Zorn,Lombardo,Laswell??? etc etc _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 16:11:50 -0400 From: Brian Olewnick Subject: Re: Victoriaville???? Arthur Gadney wrote: > > hey guys!! > > what about some comments on Victoriaville? I know some of you went. How was > Frith,Zorn,Lombardo,Laswell??? etc etc I went and set in a lengthy post this morning that is no doubt languishing in long-post limbo until it's approved. You'll just have to wait.... Brian Olewnick - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:22:37 -0700 From: "Peruvian Night Train" Subject: Sun Ra Tribute in Seattle this wkend (5/25-26) howdy folks, pls pardon the regional nature of this post, suffice to say that i'm crazy 'bout RA and wanna get the word out to all about this special two-night tribute event here's the scoop: Friday May 25 *and* Saturday May 26 at the Rainbow (722 NE 45th St.) http://www.therainbow.cc peruvianightrain productions presents: *** "A TRIBUTE TO SUN RA" *** {in memory of his arrival, 5.22.14, and departure, 5.30.93} *** feat. two full sets of classic Sun Ra tunes each night!!! *** starring bassist Reuben Radding (Myth Science, Lost Valentine, etc.), drummer Mike Stone (*Crack Sabbath*, Combo Craig, etc.), saxophonist Craig Flory (Combo Craig, Craig Sabbath, etc. ;), trumpeter Tony Grasso, Hammond B3 organist Don Goodwin (Beecraft), percussionist Bob Rees (Beecraft) -- and some *VERY SPECIAL GUESTS!* (on both nights - including, on Friday, Zony Mash guitarist Tim Young!!) [$7 dos & adv. tickets -- ticketweb.com] For more on bassist Reuben Radding, head on over to: http://www.acousticinterview.com/reuben.html --------------------- "It is in the seeking that you find satisfaction." - Ichiro --------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 23:52:34 -0400 From: Mathieu Belanger Subject: Re: Victoriaville???? Hello, >what about some comments on Victoriaville? I know some of you went. How was >Frith,Zorn,Lombardo,Laswell??? etc etc I haven't attended all the concerts, so I can't give a complete report as some other will be able to do. I actually only attended five concerts: The Shalabi Effect, poire_z, Dave Douglas Witness, Otomo Yoshihide Cathode and Francisco Lopez/Amy Denio... I would have stayed for Monday (ok, with the exception of Zorn/Frith/Laswell/Lombardo to be honest), but it meant more money than I wanted to spent on this... The Shalabi Effect were, in my opinion, very good. But, I might not be objective here as I really like what they are doing... They played for 80 minutes without interruption which was too long for some folks. I don't think it was, but I understand that it was the sixth concert of the day for some and the chairs of the CEGEP are not very comfortable... The intro certainly was very nice: a powerful drone made by the guitars of Sam Shalabi and Anthony Seck while Alexandre St-Onge was bowing powerfully his bass (which was lying on the floor). One thing I appreciated is the fact that they improved the integration between their electronic side and their "psychedelic /arab" side. poire_z played one long 60 minutes piece. It was nice. I think I would have appreciated two pieces instead of one. It would have cut a certain linearity in their music that was especially noticable by the end. Still a nice show however. I was quite disapointed by Dave Douglas' concert. It really is the low point for me. If I hadn't bought a ticket especially for this one, I probably would have left before the end. It really didn't do anything for me. I don't know why exactly. To me, the interpretation seemed contained. The compositions are not bad, but there are some repetitions and some parts that I would classify as boring. However, the crowd probably liked it as they got a stading ovation and played a short encore. Of course, Dave Douglas, Mark Feldman, Erik Friedlander and the others played well, but something was missing. I also find myself enjoying what Ikue Mori was doing... which I find very surprising as I usually don't... To be honest, I still don't know what to think of Otomo's concert. The ending surely was beautiful, but the first 10-15 minutes would require a second listen. The first track they played was "Modulation" (or "Modulations"?) and it was quite minimalist. There were some modulations, but they were not so easily noticable in my opinion, espcially at the beginning. It was more like a 15 minutes very high pure tone. The sound was not so loud in the Colisee in fact. A little louder sound probably would have helped me to concentrate only on the music. In fact, a phone rang behind the stage at around five minutes (well, something like that) and I could hear it perfectly (and I was not in the front)... Lopez did pretty much his usual thing. I was curious to hear how the presence of Amy Denio would change his live performance. The differences were very small. The main difference was probably the presence of higher frequencies, something that is not so frequent in Lopez' works (with the exception of _Untitled #90_ maybe!). It was quite nice. This first piece was 30 minutes (well, this is what we were told). The second piece was Lopez solo (again 30 minutes). As I said before, pretty much the usual thing, but beautiful and mind-blowing as usual! To end the piece, he progessivly created a wall of sound and suddently cut the sound... as usual... I was discussing it with somebody after the show and we compared it with what godspeed you black emperor! are doing: it's sometimes a little easy and predictable, but it's so good that you can only like it!! There was one new thing (to my knowledge at least) though. At one point, the sound of birds could be clearly identifed and the sound of leaves a little later on. Now, that's not usual! Especially because of the way he's equalizing everything. Probably my favorite concert along with the Shalabi Effect. Somebody will probably comment the other concerts... Tschuss, Mathieu - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 03:01:50 EDT From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: ZORNGEM C A third COMPANY extract, again with an appearance by ZORN -=20 C 9. CW91: DOCUMENT 930319.14 (A4, black on white, both sides printed) (Side 1) 'the world's leading festival of improvised music' COMPANY WEEK 1991 THE PLACE THEATRE 17 DUKE'S ROAD LONDON WC1 Tuesday, July 23rd - Saturday, July 27th Company Week is an annual celebration of the wonders of freely improvised music. This year, the 14th, features musicians from the U.S.A., Germany, France and Britain. COMPANY DEREK BAILEY guitar JOHN ZORN alto sax ALEXANDER BALANESCU violin YVES ROBERT trombone PAUL LOVENS percussion VANESSA MACKNESS voice PAT=20 THOMAS electronics and keyboard BUCKETHEAD guitar PAUL ROGERS bass The first two evenings will be as programmed. At the Thursday, Friday and Saturday concerts all the musicians will play= =20 in groupings to be decided immediately before the performances. TUESDAY 23 DEREK BAILEY/ PAUL LOVENS YVES ROBERT ALEXANDER BALANESCU/ VANESSA MACKNESS WEDNESDAY 24 JOHN ZORN/ BUCKETHEAD PAT THOMAS/ DEREK BAILEY THURSDAY FRIDAY & SATURDAY JOHN ZORN PAT THOMAS YVES ROBERT PAUL LOVENS VANNESSA MACKNESS PAUL ROGERS DEREK BAILEY ALEXANDER BALANESCU BUCKETHEAED ./continues PERFORMANCES START EVERY EVENING AT 7.30pm Tickets =A37 & =A35 concession Season Ticket =A321 BOX OFFICE 071 387 0031 (map of the) ENQUIRIES 081 986 6904 ( venue ) FINANCIALLY ASSISTED BY GLA (Side 2 - three vertical panels, giving details of participating musicians=20 and the following opening paragraph -) " In Company Week 91 a group of musicians, drawn from different corners of=20 the musical universe, come together to make music on the basis of a shared=20 interest in improvisation. The first two evenings might be as programmed.=20 Subsequently, everybody appears each evening in groupings decided immediatel= y=20 before each performance." /END/ There's even more! Roger Parry - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 03:09:41 EDT From: RogerHParry@cs.com Subject: Re: Victoriaville???? Subj: Re: Victoriaville???? Date: 24/05/01 To: mathieu.belanger@UMontreal.CA In a message dated 24/05/01 04:49:11 GMT Daylight Time, mathieu.belanger@UMontreal.CA writes: << But, I might not be objective here as >> I am still a live human being... But we all have our little failings Best regards Rog - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 04:00:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Theo Klaase Subject: Viva La Musique!!! Victoriaville!!! - --0-424238335-990702059=:37469 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bar Kokhba show: Excellent! Ribot played a epiphone 335 red and Zorn kept mentioning that he was the king of "New Jersey Surf guitar"... Friedlander was on fire... He and Cohen did a number together that was just stunning... Joey and Cyro also did a percussion number that was amazing... Feldman did a solo piece... The project played mostly things from Circle Maker... Zorn directed from the side lines... I was able to meet everyone after the show... Frith/Laswell/Lombardo/Zorn: Great improvs... What else would one expect? Lombardo was brutal! I'd never had the pleasure of seeing Fred Frith play and he was facinating... "Invintive" maybe the word... Zorn did very little directing but the band seemed to just go places on it's own anyway... Laswell was his usual, and Zorn was usually on the mark... Great show... Fantomas: Very entertaining... Lombardo stole the show, really... It was hard to stop watching him... Buzz was okay, Trevor Dunn was as tight as can be with Lombardo and Patton seemed to be having the time of his life... Great line-up and great tunes... Bill Frisell Trio: Bill was the best guitarist I've seen live to date... Amazing!!! The sampler he used was out of this world... Kenny Wollenson was in a trance inspired by the connection between Frisell and Tony Scherr... Great show too!!! What can I say, it was a great festival! I met Frisell and Kenny before the show... Great guys... Ikue Mori, DJ Olive, Kim Gordon: Someone had given me tickets to this show, so my buds and I went to kill time waiting for Fantomas.... I didn't care for the show at all... In fact we all walked out as did some of the others in the audience... Really bad... Kim looked like she was on Heroin or something... Bad... Cathode: Good stuff... I didn't expect to enjoy this one as much as I did... Would I go to another show? Sure thing... - -That which is labeled Theo "My philosophy, in essense, is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute." An individualist is a man who says: "I will not run anyone else's life, nor let anyone rule mine. I will not rule or be ruled. I will not sacrifice myself for anyone, nor sacrifice anyone to myself." --Ayn Rand. - --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions $2 Million Sweepstakes - Got something to sell? - --0-424238335-990702059=:37469 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Bar Kokhba show:  Excellent!  Ribot played a epiphone 335 red and Zorn kept mentioning that he was the king of "New Jersey Surf guitar"... Friedlander was on fire... He and Cohen did a number together that was just stunning... Joey and Cyro also did a percussion number that was amazing... Feldman did a solo piece... The project played mostly things from Circle Maker... Zorn directed from the side lines... I was able to meet everyone after the show...

Frith/Laswell/Lombardo/Zorn:  Great improvs... What else would one expect?  Lombardo was brutal!  I'd never had the pleasure of seeing Fred Frith play and he was facinating... "Invintive" maybe the word... Zorn did very little directing but the band seemed to just go places on it's own anyway... Laswell was his usual, and Zorn was usually on the mark... Great show...

Fantomas:  Very entertaining... Lombardo stole the show, really... It was hard to stop watching him... Buzz was okay, Trevor Dunn was as tight as can be with Lombardo and Patton seemed to be having the time of his life... Great line-up and great tunes...

Bill Frisell Trio:  Bill was the best guitarist I've seen live to date... Amazing!!!  The sampler he used was out of this world... Kenny Wollenson was in a trance inspired by the connection between Frisell and Tony Scherr... Great show too!!!  What can I say, it was a great festival!  I met Frisell and Kenny before the show... Great guys...

Ikue Mori, DJ Olive, Kim Gordon:  Someone had given me tickets to this show, so my buds and I went to kill time waiting for Fantomas.... I didn't care for the show at all... In fact we all walked out as did some of the others in the audience... Really bad... Kim looked like she was on Heroin or something... Bad...

Cathode:  Good stuff... I didn't expect to enjoy this one as much as I did... Would I go to another show?  Sure thing...

 

 



-That which is labeled Theo     "My philosophy, in essense, is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute."

An individualist is a man who says:  "I will not run anyone else's life, nor let anyone rule mine.  I will not rule or be ruled.  I will not sacrifice myself for anyone, nor sacrifice anyone to myself." --Ayn Rand.

 


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