From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #892 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Tuesday, April 30 2002 Volume 03 : Number 892 In this issue: - Re: Masada-Live, Favorites? Zatoichi films (no Zorn) RE: Gevurah Re: (Belated) Music as "visual art" naked city live - listening... Wuorinen column, as promised... Fwd: naked city live - listening... Re: Fwd: naked city live - listening... naked city live - listening... [correction] Re: 666 Re: Masada-Live, Favorites? Downtown Music Gallery news Llorenc Barber, John Carpenter articles Bacharach Cornelius Cardew in RealAudio, Mappings for the week beginning April 30, 2002 intergalactic maiden ballet intergalactic maiden ballet NZ: PKDickFilm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:58:19 EDT From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Re: Masada-Live, Favorites? Sevilla must be my favoriteas I listen to it most often, but I very much enjoy the others as well. Actually the live Masada I listen to most isn't an offical release. It's the Jazz Door bootleg "Masada Live in New York 1994." Crisp recording, energetic and soulful performance. Funnily enough, the title is misleading since the performance itself is radio broadcast of a German concert. Tom ______________________________________________________________________ Phil Spector: "I've been listening to a lot of Andrew Lloyd Webber lately, and enjoying it. Someday I hope to set his stuff to music." - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:03:02 EDT From: JKlein2373@aol.com Subject: Zatoichi films (no Zorn) Hi all, I was wondering if anyone out there was a big fan of the Zatoichi/Blind Swordsman films. If anyone feels like emailing me off-list to "talk" about the series for a story I'm writing, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Josh - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:14:26 +0200 From: "Andreas Dietz" Subject: RE: Gevurah Gevurah is on both Bar Kokhba releases... Andreas np: John Zorn - Filmworks X (Tzadik) >From: "patbor" > >there's a track on LIVE IN TAIPEI that >(I may be wrong) doesn't appear in any of the >studio recordings: Gevurah >Here there's a brilliant sax solo that launches >one of (I think) Douglas' most astonishing solos. >And the interplay with Baron in this solo is brilliant. >I'd really like to listen to another version of Gevurah >(live or studio) but can't find it. > >The main theme of Gevurah appears also at the end >of Karaim in LIVE AT TONIC, the mix is real genius! _________________________________________________________________ Werden Sie Mitglied bei MSN Hotmail, dem größten E-Mail-Service der Welt. http://www.hotmail.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:46:40 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Nick=20Cain?= Subject: Re: (Belated) Music as "visual art" I don't think he did, but if so, it would have been a direct rip-off of Christian Marclay's "Footsteps" installation, the records used in which were later sold as art objects-cum-playable LPs. Michael Morley is, however - in New Zealand at least - known as an artist as well as a musician, and there's certainly some crossover between his art and music activities. 'My Dear Sweet Reluctant Sweetheart' was originally a sound installation - hundreds of 7" records piled on top of each other to form two "towers", if memory serves - and I think 'The Lavender Head' may also have started life as an installation soundtrack. >>I was cleaning out my inbox & found this old thread. At risk of redundancy, Michael Morley (Dead C/Gate) did some installations in which viewers walked atop 45s laid on the gallery floor. ===== www.info.net.nz/opprobrium __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:56:59 -0700 (PDT) From: jason tors Subject: naked city live - listening... the sound is great. great to hear them live as I never got the chance. The songs are pretty true to the first album, almost follows the same tracklisting I think [dont have the first one infront of me.] frisell rips it up. Its funny the first tune the audience is politely clapping, as the set goes on the applause gets louder and louder I got my copy from downtownmusic gallery, they got a few advanced copies. JT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:56:39 -0400 From: "Steve Smith" Subject: Wuorinen column, as promised... Here's the Wuorinen column for Billboard that I previously mentioned. You'll have to forgive the fact that much of it will feel obvious to you as insiders; remember that it was written for a largely unaware readership of industry insiders. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com The Classical Score By Steve Smith May 04, 2002 REBEL ALLIANCE: During his graduate school days at New York's Columbia University some 40 years ago, Charles Wuorinen was dissatisfied with the quality and quantity of contemporary music being performed on campus. Therefore, he and a friend took it upon themselves to change the situation. They founded the Group for Contemporary Music, an ad hoc musical ensemble that raised standards for the performance of the most challenging new music and continues to do so. Since then, Wuorinen has become one of America's most-lauded modern composers. In 1970, his seminal electronic composition Time's Encomium won the Pulitzer Prize, making him the youngest composer ever to win the award. He has also received a MacArthur Fellowship-the so-called "genius grant"-and countless other awards, accolades, and commissions. Since 1984, he has taught composition at Rutgers University in New Jersey. As both an unrepentant modernist and a staunch foe of compromise, it's no surprise that Wuorinen and the mainstream re-cording industry have seldom seen eye to eye. But recently he has found an unexpected ally in the iconoclastic composer/saxophonist John Zorn, a maverick artist whose output spans the gamut from jazz and free improvisation to heavy metal and klezmer-influenced projects, as well as a distinguished and growing body of work composed for classical performers that include the Kronos Quartet and the New York Philharmonic. An underground music industry unto himself, in 1995 Zorn founded the Tzadik label to issue his own music and to champion composers he admires. Originally, most of those composers were in Zorn's immediate circle of friends and peers from the downtown New York experimental music scene, but that circle broadened rapidly. It grew to include Wuorinen, which led to the release of Lepton, a new disc on Tzadik that pairs works reissued from out-of-print recordings, including Time's Encomium, with previously unreleased material. If his collaboration with Zorn appears to be an unlikely match, Wuorinen asserts that's not at all the case. The two first met during a photo shoot for A Great Day in New York, a concert series presented last year by noted cellist/new-music advocate Fred Sherry at New York's Merkin Concert Hall. "I'd known [Zorn's] name for quite some time," Wuorinen explains, "but our worlds are quite different." Zorn surprised the older composer by expressing an admiration for his music. "Somewhat later, Fred put on a Schoenberg weekend at Merkin and arranged a panel that Zorn was on. We sat next to each other and kind of conspired to disrupt the proceedings with inflammatory remarks and generally misbehave," Wuorinen recalls with a laugh. "That caused instant sympathy. I've heard him play and think very highly of him as a musician, and he expressed interest in putting out a disc of my music." Zorn personally selected the works for Lepton from out-of-print master tapes that had reverted to the composer, as well as unreleased recordings. In addition to Time's Encomium, the disc includes the rhythmically dazzling New York Notes (for sextet and electronics), the trumpet duo Epithalamium, and the shimmering titular trio, named for one of Wuorinen's cats (who also appears on the CD cover). Zorn's advocacy for earlier generations of American modernists won't end with Wuorinen: He is preparing a disc that will pair a new recording of Milton Babbitt's String Quartet No. 6 with a classic account of the String Quartet No. 2 originally recorded for Nonesuch. Meanwhile, Wuorinen appreciates the fact that Lepton may well bring his music to the attention of Zorn's own dedicated fans, many of whom come from experimental rock- and jazz-oriented backgrounds and may have little exposure to modern classical music. "I picked the pieces that I thought were appropriate for the Tzadik audience," Zorn says. He also personally supervised the remastering of Time's Encomium and New York Notes for the new release. "The difference is mind-blowing. If you compare the previous releases of both of those pieces with our record, it's like night and day-the difference between a rock record and a folk record. We really tried to pump up the volume and bring some more life in where it belongs." - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 18:16:45 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Efr=E9n=20del=20Valle?= Subject: Fwd: naked city live - listening... Hi, Any covers not included in their albums or other unreleased material? Thanks, Efrén del Valle > > the sound is great. > > great to hear them live as I never got the chance. > > The songs are pretty true to the first album, almost > follows the same > tracklisting I think [dont have the first one > infront of me.] > > frisell rips it up. > > Its funny the first tune the audience is politely > clapping, as the set > goes on the applause gets louder and louder > > I got my copy from downtownmusic gallery, they got a > few advanced > copies. > > JT > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com > > - > _______________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente. http://messenger.yahoo.es - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:27:19 -0700 (PDT) From: jason tors Subject: Re: Fwd: naked city live - listening... the covers are chinatown - jerry goldsmith shot in the dark - henry mancini erotico - ennio morricone i want to live - jonny mandel the way I feel - john patton I am still going thru it, I never remember song titles. Seems like I know most of the material. I think the patton cover is new. overall great to hear them live. Does anyone know anything about this gig? Sounds like they were getting ready to record the first album because the beginning of the set starts like the album. - --- Efrén del Valle wrote: > Hi, > > Any covers not included in their albums or other > unreleased material? > > Thanks, > > Efrén del Valle > > > > the sound is great. > > > > great to hear them live as I never got the chance. > > > > The songs are pretty true to the first album, almost > > follows the same > > tracklisting I think [dont have the first one > > infront of me.] > > > > frisell rips it up. > > > > Its funny the first tune the audience is politely > > clapping, as the set > > goes on the applause gets louder and louder > > > > I got my copy from downtownmusic gallery, they got a > > few advanced > > copies. > > > > JT > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > > http://health.yahoo.com > > > > - > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger > Comunicación instantánea gratis con tu gente. > http://messenger.yahoo.es __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:28:46 -0700 (PDT) From: jason tors Subject: naked city live - listening... [correction] correction the patton cover is from that album that zorn did with patton, so not recorded by naked city but by patton. jt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:36:48 -0400 From: Michael Slone Subject: Re: 666 > > From: Michael Slone > > hexakosioi hexEkonta hex > What's your source for this? Zodhiates, Spiros, _The Complete Word Study New Testament_. But the part I'm thinking of is basically a reproduction of Strong's concordance, specifically of the words indexed by 1812, 1835, and 1803. > I'm unaware of the aspirated 'h' (chi: x) being in front of the 6 root. I'm not using 'h' to represent chi, but rather the aspiration mark over the epsilon in the text. - -- Michael Slone - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:41:30 -0500 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Masada-Live, Favorites? On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 10:50:52AM -0400, patbor wrote: > there's a track on LIVE IN TAIPEI that > (I may be wrong) doesn't appear in any of the > studio recordings: Gevurah While I don't know of other quartet recordings, Gevurah appears on both Bar Kochba and The Circle Maker in other arrangements. - -- | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.josephzitt.com/ | | http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt/ http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt/ | | == New book: Surprise Me with Beauty: the Music of Human Systems == | | Comma / Gray Code Silence: the John Cage Discussion List | - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:29:19 +0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Downtown Music Gallery news 1. NAKED CITY - Live Volume One: Knitting Factory 1989 (Tzadik 7336) Finally!!! The official release date is actually May 21 and we only have fifty or so advance copies, until they manufacture another big bunch. Naked City were (Bill Frisell, Fred Frith, Wayne Horvitz, Joey Baron & John Zorn) Zorn's most popular, influential, ground-breaking and exciting band ever! They covered more genres - jazz/rock/punk/surf/soundtrack/noise/country/cartoon music and often within one short blast/song. This phenomenal cd captures them in their early period doing tunes from their first release plus a previously unreleased gem - John Patton's "The Way I Feel"! This is the most anxiously anticipated Zorn release in years, so order now or you might have to wait a few weeks. CD $14. 2. JOHN ZORN/MIKE PATTON/IKUE MORI - Hemophiliac (Tzadik Special Edition) Limited edition 2 CD set of 2,500 copies worldwide - autographed by Zorn, Patton and Mori!!! Recorded in various locations, enclosed in bizarre packaging and bound to disappear quickly!!! This brutal alto sax/voice & effects/computer trio is incredibly intense live and these recordings capture their scary sonic storm. Only sold through your favorite adventurous music outlet DMG, and the Tzadik and Ipecac websites!!! Pre-orders / reservations now being accepted by us! Due to be released on or about June 1st, the approximate cost is $45. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 00:27:55 -0400 From: Perfect Sound Forever Subject: Llorenc Barber, John Carpenter articles Greetings, In the latest issue of Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine , you'll find among other things: LLORENC BARBER Avant-garde bells of Spain- an interview with a Fluxus refugee who finds more than bats in the belfry plus the story of modern Spanish experimental music JOHN CARPENTER Master of his own film music- known as a masterful director of horror flicks, Carpenter just as carefully crafts the music for his own scream-fests We're always looking for new material and good writers to work with so let us know if you have any ideas. See you online, Jason Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine perfect-sound@furious.com http://www.furious.com/perfect - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 05:34:13 -0400 From: "patbor" Subject: Bacharach Hi list, what would You recommend of Burt Bacharach's works apart from the Costello collaboration? Thank You - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:07:16 -0500 From: Herb Levy Subject: Cornelius Cardew in RealAudio, Mappings for the week beginning April 30, 2002 Hi y'all, This week on Mappings , you'll hear works by the avant garde British composer Cornelius Cardew including recordings by Cardew performing and the recently released complete version of his massive graphic-score work Treatise. The show went online Tuesday morning around 8:00 AM (-0500 GMT) and will remain online at the above URL for a week. Last week's program (featuring music by Charles Ives) is still available in the Mappings archive (click on the link to last week's show on the page noted above), soon you will again find play lists for the program since it began in March 1998. Hope you tune in to the program. Bests, Herb - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:36:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Theo Klaase Subject: intergalactic maiden ballet Apparently there is a CD by a band called "intergalactic maiden ballet" featuring John Zorn... Where can I get a copy of this disc? ===== - -That which is Theo Insofar as the coercive powers of government are to be used to insure that particular people get particular things, it requires a kind of discrimination between, and an unequal treatment of, different people which is irreconcilable with a free society. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:36:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Theo Klaase Subject: intergalactic maiden ballet Apparently there is a CD by a band called "intergalactic maiden ballet" featuring John Zorn... Where can I get a copy of this disc? ===== - -That which is Theo Insofar as the coercive powers of government are to be used to insure that particular people get particular things, it requires a kind of discrimination between, and an unequal treatment of, different people which is irreconcilable with a free society. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:25:27 -0700 From: "s~Z" Subject: NZ: PKDickFilm http://www.msnbc.com/news/744085.asp#BODY - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #892 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? Email the list owner at zorn-list-owner@lists.xmission.com