From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest) To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #906 Reply-To: zorn-list Sender: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Zorn List Digest Tuesday, May 14 2002 Volume 03 : Number 906 In this issue: - Re: Tom Waits again...... Re: Star Wars and the Ring Re: Tom Waits again...... Re: Star Wars and the Ring Re: Tom Waits again...... DMCA horrors Re: save internet radio Re: Tom Waits again...... Antw: Naked City live alasnoaxis - live - reviews ? Re: alasnoaxis - live - reviews ? Re: NC at the KF RE: Brotzmann/ Necking and Victoriaville Re: NC at the KF Re: NC at the KF Naked City Live Zorn/Patton/Mori - IAO Re: Zorn/Patton/Mori - IAO Victoriaville - NY ride? Victoriaville? Re: Victoriaville? IAO / Zorn/Patton/Mori RE: IAO / Zorn/Patton/Mori Re: IAO / Zorn/Patton/Mori recent merzbow? Re: recent merzbow? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 13:17:22 EDT From: RainDog138@aol.com Subject: Re: Tom Waits again...... Waits was his usual amazing self on letterman last night. He performed "all the world is green." Dave introduced him as the GREAT Tom Waits. Dave still seemed amazed by how beautiful the performance was. the conversation afterwards was typical waits humor only tom seemed much more comfortable then when he was last on letterman back in 1987 (he may have been on again since then) when he performed "more than rain" to promote Frank's Wild Years. at that time he seemed real out of place and letterman just didn't understand Tom yet. To answer the other waits question - Yes both albums are the music from theatre plays that tom and his wife kathleen brennan had written some time ago. the demos for these albums have been circulating for years so to serious waits fans like myself, there is liitle unheard material on either of these albums though they are slightly different arrangements and recordings from the demos. - -mt - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 10:03:23 -0700 From: Dave Trenkel Subject: Re: Star Wars and the Ring At 10:08 AM +0000 5/9/2002, Arthur Gadney wrote: >Hello, > >Semi-related: Did anybody else notice that not only was the music >for "Lord of the Rings" horrible, it also ripped off "Titanic"?! > I never watched "Titanic" closely enough to really hear the score (god, what an atrocity of a film!), but I do think that "Lord of the Rings" is not anywhere near the best of what Howard Shore can do. Kind of disappointing. - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Trenkel New and Improv Music http://www.newandimprov.com improv@peak.org - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 03:35:24 +1000 From: "Julian" Subject: Re: Tom Waits again...... Well he has been on at least one other time, playing 'Chocolate Jesus' from Mule Variations... > Waits was his usual amazing self on letterman last night. He performed "all > the world is green." Dave introduced him as the GREAT Tom Waits. Dave still > seemed amazed by how beautiful the performance was. the conversation > afterwards was typical waits humor only tom seemed much more comfortable then > when he was last on letterman back in 1987 (he may have been on again since > then) when he performed "more than rain" to promote Frank's Wild Years. at > that time he seemed real out of place and letterman just didn't understand > Tom yet. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 11:23:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Ryan Novak Subject: Re: Star Wars and the Ring >Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 10:08:35 +0000 >From: "Arthur Gadney" >Subject: Re: Star Wars and the Ring > >Hello, > >Semi-related: Did anybody else notice that not only >was the music for "Lord >of the Rings" horrible, it also ripped off "Titanic"?! Yeah, I found it to be a distraction to the incredible visuals- which in this movie is a crime. Nearly every beautiful shot was filled with overwrought music- ugh. And then the guy wins an Oscar for his dumb and obvious score. - ---Ryan Novak __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 11:29:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Ryan Novak Subject: Re: Tom Waits again...... >Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 10:36:53 +0000 >From: "Arthur Gadney" >Subject: Tom Waits again...... > >Hello, > >Did anybody catch Tom Waits on the Letterman show? >How >was it? Well, it was great of course, maybe someone will know the musicians that played with him, since I didn't recognize anybody. And Dave talked with him for a segment as well, and he was really funny- talking about how he didn't get any recognition on a visit to a music store, but then everyone knew him at the dump. :~) Really made me itchy to get those CDs- I'll have them by tonight I think. - ---Ryan Novak __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 12:21:37 -0700 From: Chris Selvig Subject: DMCA horrors "15 Cents or 14/100ths, It's especially sad that the artists discussed here rarely, if ever, see any of this money." - but isn't it heartening to think of the copyright lawyers, RIAA lobbyists, and independent promoters gobbling it all up? Chris Selvig - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 04:25:55 EDT From: Dgasque@aol.com Subject: Re: save internet radio In a message dated 5/9/02 1:16:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, velaires@earthlink.net writes: << Unfortunately, the idiots have better lobbyists than indie musicians will ever be able to afford. And on that hangs the law. >> Oh well-guess I'll join them. I'm off to buy a Backstreet Boys CD. - -- =dg= - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:03:30 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?nicola=20negri?= Subject: Re: Tom Waits again...... >Subject: Tom Waits again...... >Hello, >Did anybody catch Tom Waits on the Letterman show? How was it? >Cheers, Well, i saw it yesterday night.. how was it..? it was tom waits, of course. he sang "all the world is green" from 'blood money', with acoustic guitar (himself), vibes (marimba?), contrabass, cello and clarinet. didn't recognize any of the musicians. and yes, the performance was thrilling. then he sat down with david letterman and told a story about how he once went to a music shop, and he stood by the instruments, waiting to be recognized, and nobody noticed him. while another time he went to a dump, where everybody knew who he was. then letterman asked him about his early years, and how it was to play before the main artists. tom replied saying that he felt like a rectal thermometer. you can imagine.. anyway, he then began telling a story about a concert he did with buffalo bob, but he couldn't end the story, he couldn't even start it, that the show ended. so the ending was a little hurried, but anyway it was great. as a side note, tom wore a stunning color-changing purple-grey dress. wow. ok, hope this gave you an idea of how it was.. see ya nic ______________________________________________________________________ Con Yahoo! vinci viaggi per i Mondiali FIFA 2002 http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://lasfida.yahoo.net/ - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 15:06:02 -0700 From: "Marcel Kranendonk" Subject: Antw: Naked City live Sorry, can't remember. At the time I had no idea who this Stipe-person was. He was quite famous in the States and maybe also in Europe, but I didn't know the bloke. have fun marcel - ---------- >Van: "Arthur Gadney" >Aan: ssmith36@sprynet.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com >Onderwerp: RE: Naked City live >Datum: zon, 5 mei 2002 05:48 > >>Hey, why not Stipe? He sang a mean version of Moby Grape's "Omaha" with the >>Golden Palominos... > > Yea yea, and Whitney Huston sang with Material, but.... What did Stipe > actually perform?? Not "Demon Sanctuary" I suspect! > > Cheers, > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > - > - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:05:34 -0700 (PDT) From: jason tors Subject: alasnoaxis - live - reviews ? Hello, alasnoaxis played two sets at tonic last night, anyone there that would care to post a review? - -still waiting for my care package from dmg... np- [in the office] moulin rouge, thank goodness for headphones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:11:52 -0700 From: "s~Z" Subject: Re: alasnoaxis - live - reviews ? >>>np- [in the office] moulin rouge, thank goodness for headphones<<< Yeah, it is much nicer to focus on all those tunes without interference from office clamour. - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 19:58:34 +0200 From: Thierry Raguin Subject: Re: NC at the KF I have two bootlegs of Naked City: *** Berlin, 08-11-1988: 1 Graveyard Shift 2 Erotico 3 Batman 4 Latin Quarter 5 James Bond Theme 6 Inside Straight 7 Taxi Driver Theme 8 Pretty Lonely Woman 9 Zapata 10 You Will Be Shot 11 Den Of Sins 12 Outro *** Naked City with Mike Patton (live in Paris???) 1 Hawaii 5-0 Theme 2 Osake Bondage 3 Sack Of Shit 4 Dead Spot 5 Ujaku 6 Blunt Instrument 7 Bonehead 8 Torture Garden 9 Igneous Ejaculation 10 The Prestidigitator 11 Shock Corridor 12 ??? 13 Triggerfingers 14 A Night In Tunisia 15 George Clinton / Parliament Cover 16 Sunset Surfer 17 Snagglepuss 18 Party Girl 19 Blood Is Thin 20 Speedfreaks 21 Hellraiser 22 Thrash Jazz Assassin 23 Blood Duster 24 Shangkuan Ling-Feng 25 ??? 26 Pistol Whipping 27 ??? 28 ??? Both are great!!! I think I got them from Caca Volante. If someone is interested, I can try to make them available. Just ask and be patient ;-) - - TR richard ladew wrote: > What do people think of the first Naked City Live? > > I was hoping for more unreleased stuff, but the Big John Patton and > extra Morricone track were pretty cool. Hope there are remaining live > discs that have Patton (Mike) sitting in for EYE. I'd love to have that. > > > Rich Ladew - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 09:29:45 -0300 From: mwoodwor Subject: RE: Brotzmann/ Necking and Victoriaville How about whoever is interested meet at the Motel Colibri for breakfast at 10:30 AM on the Saturday?? Mike w >===== Original Message From Mike Chamberlain ===== >on 4/5/02 9:50 AM, mwoodwor at mwoodwor@is2.dal.ca wrote: > > >> FInally, might be a good idea for members of the zorn-list >> who will be attending Victoriaville to meet up on one of the >> nights/days? Any interest? >> >> mike >> >We could meet at one of the finer restaurants in Victoriaville. >Uhhh....scratch that. We could meet at the finest poutine palace in the >world. Then again, maybe the Colibri for breakfast on Saturday or Sunday >morning would be the easiest. Anyway, who all's going? Brian? Kurt? >Patrice? Juan Antonio? I'm heading up on Friday afternoon, driving from >Montreal at about 1, if anyone is interested in a ride from downtown. > >--Mike - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 12:42:47 +0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Re: NC at the KF Hello, >9 Zapata What's that!? >7 Hawai 5-0 Theme Probably the coolest cover version they did, esp with EYE on vocals. Hope it will pop up on a live cd! >14 A Night In Tunisia This is great! Cheers. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:41:58 +0200 From: Thierry Raguin Subject: Re: NC at the KF Arthur Gadney wrote: > Hello, > >> 9 Zapata > > > What's that!? I have no idea... It was the name of the file when I got it... I started to put the files on a server for Zachary, but it's not the best solution since I don't have a permanent IP address and my computer is really really noisy! So I will try to build up a server ASAP and put my naked city bootlegs on it. I also have a live album of Keep The Dog in Glasgow, with JZ and Tenko. I'll send a mail to the list when the server is up ;-) - - TR PS: Sorry for the delay Zachary. Hope you managed to get at least the first songs... - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 23:41:14 +0200 From: Thierry Raguin Subject: Naked City Live I just set up a server: http://kobaia27.homedns.org/ For now, there is only Naked City live with Mike Patton. I will start putting more things soon and on demand. I'm not always connected but if you have problems, just e-mail me or send me a message using ICQ, AIM or MSN (screen names are in the Welcome.txt file). - - TR - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 04:10:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Theo Klaase Subject: Zorn/Patton/Mori - IAO When someone on the list gets a copy of the new Zorn/Patton/Mori release - please e-mail a detailed account of what the album sounds like to the list... By the IAO, one of Zorn's latest, is really great. Almost as diverse as Taboo and Exile. Only 7 tracks though. 4 of which are really amazing... ===== - -That which is Theo Insofar as the coercive powers of government are to be used to insure that particular people get particular things, it requires a kind of discrimination between, and an unequal treatment of, different people which is irreconcilable with a free society. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 12:29:06 +0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" Subject: Re: Zorn/Patton/Mori - IAO Hello, >When someone on the list gets a copy of the new >Zorn/Patton/Mori release - please e-mail a detailed >account of what the album sounds like to the list... Judging from the reviews I have heard of the concerts, I wouldn't fork out all that money. But wh knows, maybe it's better on CD. In fact, I think that might well be the case. Ikue Mori is always awesome. So yea, if anybody buys it, please post a comment or two. > By the IAO, one of Zorn's latest, is really great. >Only 7 tracks though. 4 of which are really amazing... And three which are....? Cheers. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:04:38 -0400 From: "Jeni Dahmus" Subject: Victoriaville - NY ride? Due to a last minute change in plans, I may attend the Victoriaville = festival this weekend. If anyone in the NY area is willing to share a = ride, please email me privately. Thanks. Jeni - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:11:12 EDT From: Samerivertwice@aol.com Subject: Victoriaville? Can anyone please post a link to an English-language site that provides all the details of the Victoriaville festival? I mihgt be able to go but need to know where and how much it is. Many thanks, Tom - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:14:42 -0400 From: pequet@centras.lt (Benjamin Pequet) Subject: Re: Victoriaville? http://www.fimav.qc.ca/ At 01:11 PM 5/13/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Can anyone please post a link to an English-language site that provides all >the details of the Victoriaville festival? I mihgt be able to go but need to - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 07:16:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Theo Klaase Subject: IAO / Zorn/Patton/Mori Would someone review there thoughts on the new Zorn/Patton/Mori album? IAO is pretty good. Not Taboo and Exile - maybe it's not fair to compare the two. It sounds like a horror movie film score at times. 7 songs was too short - surely. Most of the album is wonderfully hypnotic and de-void of any real melody. The album is often abstract sounds and hints of something larger with the coherency remaining intact through out - a credit to the composer... New ground? No. Compelling? You bet! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 10:23:26 -0400 From: "Steve Smith" Subject: RE: IAO / Zorn/Patton/Mori Zorn/Patton/Mori isn't due for release until the first week of June, at best, according to Bruce at DMG. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com NP - John Adams, Naive and Sentimental Music (Nonesuch) - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:05:05 +0200 From: Thierry Raguin Subject: Re: IAO / Zorn/Patton/Mori This is the confirmation of my order: "this is expected to be ready for shipping in the first week of June". We will have to wait a little bit...and hope it won't be as delayed as NC ;-) - - TR Steve Smith wrote: >Zorn/Patton/Mori isn't due for release until the first week of June, at >best, according to Bruce at DMG. > >Steve Smith >ssmith36@sprynet.com >NP - John Adams, Naive and Sentimental Music (Nonesuch) > > >- > > > > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:05:24 -0400 From: Subject: recent merzbow? So how are recent Merzbow releases? I started listening to him in the mid 80s when it was all cassettes that were mostly ordered directly from him and then the RRR LP and the first CDS. But about 30 of these seemed enough: they didn't actually all sound the same but close enough, y'know. The last I got was the Tzadik release. But descriptions I've read about others over the past few years sound like they might be worth checking out. Esp Amlux, Ikebukuro Dada, Live at Radio 100, Door Open at 8am. Opinions? - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:31:36 -0400 From: "Caleb T. Deupree" Subject: Re: recent merzbow? I've got Live at Radio 100, and it's a hoot listening to Merzbow spin Louis Armstrong and the Beach Boys. I'm not a Merzbow collector by any stretch (I just got 1930 on a recent binge, but haven't listened to it yet), so I can't compare it to anything specific, but I have listened to this more than a lot of the noise I get. At 03:05 PM 5/14/02 -0400, wlt4@mindspring.com wrote: >So how are recent Merzbow releases? I started listening to him in the mid 80s when it was all cassettes that were mostly ordered directly from him and then the RRR LP and the first CDS. But about 30 of these seemed enough: they didn't actually all sound the same but close enough, y'know. The last I got was the Tzadik release. > >But descriptions I've read about others over the past few years sound like they might be worth checking out. Esp Amlux, Ikebukuro Dada, Live at Radio 100, Door Open at 8am. Opinions? > >- > > > - -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree@erinet.com - - ------------------------------ End of Zorn List Digest V3 #906 ******************************* To unsubscribe from zorn-list-digest, send an email to "majordomo@lists.xmission.com" with "unsubscribe zorn-list-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "zorn-list-digest" in the commands above with "zorn-list". Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.xmission.com, in pub/lists/zorn-list/archive. These are organized by date. Problems? Email the list owner at zorn-list-owner@lists.xmission.com