From xmission.com!zorn-list-digest-request Tue Apr 2 12:13:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from xmission.xmission.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0u4Bjw-0003wgC; Tue, 2 Apr 96 11:27 PST Received: (from root@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id PAA07515; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:03:38 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:03:38 -0700 (MST) From: zorn-list-digest-request@xmission.com Message-Id: <199604012203.PAA07515@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: zorn-list-digest Digest V96 #8 X-Loop: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com X-Mailing-List: archive/volume96/8 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com Status: RO ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain zorn-list-digest Digest Volume 96 : Issue 8 Today's Topics: what's happening [ sgust@art.edu (Stefan Gustafsson) ] Re: what's happening [ "Patrice L. Roussel" ] Re: saying nothing [ jeffs@hyperreal.com (Jeff Spirer) ] Re: saying nothing [ Knutboy@aol.com ] Avant Releases [ Me ] Re: Upcoming releases from Tzadik [ Selina A Valade ] Movies [ Torsten Nielsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii what's going on at the zorn list. is nobody saying anything or am i disconnected? please answer zegge -- Stefan Gustafsson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:33:13 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" To: sgust@art.edu (Stefan Gustafsson) Cc: zorn-list@xmission.com, proussel@ichips.intel.com Subject: Re: what's happening Message-Id: <9603281633.AA39872@pdx144> On Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:21:02 -0800 sgust@art.edu wrote: > > what's going on at the > zorn list. is nobody > saying anything or am i > disconnected? > > please answer At least your mail shows that the list still works :-). I was seriously doubting it! Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:34:48 -0500 From: mcolonne@biomed.med.yale.edu (Matt Colonnese) To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Masada recomend Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So I'm gonna break down and stop waiting for a domestic release of Masada (unless someone knows about an upcomming release) and I wanted to get some advice as to which one or two would be the best to have. In particular I would like to get an exposure to as wide a range of what this group can do; i.e. the most representative disk as opposed to the most extreme. Thanks much, matt ------ "Finally, something that would bring people together...even if it kept them apart, spatially." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 11:54:45 -0500 (EST) From: plantarm To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: saying nothing Message-id: <01I2VDF9SABM0007CT@WABASH.EDU> Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT it seems, stefan, we have all lapsed into impenetrable silence. maybe zorn has ceased to exist ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:53:06 -0800 From: jeffs@hyperreal.com (Jeff Spirer) To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: saying nothing Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 4:54 PM 3/28/96, plantarm wrote: >it seems, stefan, we have all lapsed into impenetrable silence. maybe >zorn has ceased to exist I thought the stylus got stuck during 4'33". Jeff jeffs@hyperreal.com http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:52:07 -0500 From: Knutboy@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: saying nothing Message-ID: <960328175204_258523328@emout04.mail.aol.com> A few things happening in New York. Masada is doing a week at the Knitting Factory, and their will be a 3 day Tzadik festival, both in April. The first evening of the Tzadik festival will be Zorn solo, Elliot Sharp and I believe Shelly Hirsch. Tzadik should have at least 3 new releases in April. I've also heard rumblings of new Avant titles, but have yet to see a list. Perhaps others out there can fill in the blanks. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:27:23 -0600 (CST) From: Me To: Zorn Digest Subject: Avant Releases Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Joey Baron - _Crackshot_ was supposed to come out at the end of February, but now it's been pushed back with no release date listed in the CDNow database. A disc by Z'ev is supposed to come out April 9th. Does anyone know anything about this one? Out 2 lunch with lunchmeat, Paul wesley@interaccess.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- GROOVE "Real individual self-expression is so rare, so rare, that when the ---------- person uses any kind of stimulant to maintain his emotional energy, one nation it always works against his expression." -Ornette Coleman ----------------------O(+>-Emancipation-1996?---------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:58:18 -0500 (EST) From: Selina A Valade To: "Patrice L. Roussel" cc: zorn-list@xmission.com, proussel@ichips.intel.com Subject: Re: Upcoming releases from Tzadik Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering how I could get a hold of some of the Tzadik releases. It is pretty hard to find them around here. Is there a mail order catalog or anything? Selina On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Patrice L. Roussel wrote: > Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:41:47 -0800 > From: Patrice L. Roussel > To: zorn-list@xmission.com > Cc: proussel@ichips.intel.com > Subject: Upcoming releases from Tzadik > > > People might be interested to know about these eight upcoming > releases from Tzadik (planned for April). > > Composer Series: > > * 7 NADEs: Eyvind Kang (TZA 7018) > > Eyvind Kang is an amazing young violin player from Seattle. This record > features three dozen musicians including Scott Colbourne from Sun City > Girls. > > Comment from Zorn: "7 NADEs: One of the quirkiest and most indescribable > of sound sculptures from a new generation of experimentalists. A compo- > sition that will bring new revelations with each listening. Kand is one > sick Puppy." > > * TAO-NJIA: Wadada Leo Smith (TZA 7017) > > With: Wadada Leo Smith, David Philipson, Mika Noda, Harumi Makino, > Dorothy Stone, Martin Walker, Vicky Ray, Robin Lorentz, Erika Duke. > > * PAST: Li Chin Sung (TZA 7014) > > * XENOCODEX: Elliott Sharp (TZA 7016) > > Elliott Sharp + Soldier String Quartet. > > * ADULT THEMES for voice: Mike Patton (TZA 7015) > > Mike Patton voice solo. > > New Japan Series: > > * JEHOVAH: Zubi Zuva (TZA 7209) > > An acappella vocal trio with Yoshida Tatsuya, Shibasaki Yukifumi and > Takahashi Hideki. > > Tzadik Archival Series: > > * THE CLASSIC GUIDE TO STRATEGY: John Zorn (TZA 7305) > > Reissue on one CD of both out of print Zorn's solo records on Lumina. > > * FILMWORKS 2 - MUSIC FOR AN UNTITLED FILM BY WALTER HILL: John Zorn > (TZA 7306) > > Reissue of the Toy's Factory Japanese release. > > With: Cyro Baptista, Anthony Coleman, Carol Emanuel, Andy Haas, Jim > Pugliese, Marc Ribot, David Shea. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 12:57:11 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" To: Selina A Valade Cc: "Patrice L. Roussel" , zorn-list@xmission.com, proussel@ichips.intel.com Subject: Re: Upcoming releases from Tzadik Message-Id: <9603292057.AA40116@pdx144> On Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:58:18 -0500 (EST) savalade@mhc.mtholyoke.edu wrote: > > I was wondering how I could get a hold of some of the Tzadik releases. > It is pretty hard to find them around here. Is there a mail order catalog > or anything? > Selina You might try: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ WAYSIDE MUSIC P.O. Box 8427 Silver Spring, MD 20907-8427 Tel: (301) 589-1803 (new release info (recording)) Fax: (301) 589-1819 e-mail: CuneiWay@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:26:25 -0500 (EST) From: NEC_DRURY@FLO.ORG To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Scelsi concert in Boston Message-Id: <960329172625.125d0@FLO.ORG> Since Zorn was the person who initially turned me on to the music of Scelsi, I thought folks on this list might be interested in the following: Two works by the Italian composer Giacinto Scelsi will be performed at New England Conservatory in Boston on the Enchanted Circle series next Thursday. The 35-minute Suite No. 9 "Ttai" for solo piano will open the program. "Anahit" for violin and chamber orchestra will be heard after intermission, along with works by Webern and Tamar Diesendruck. Scelsi's music is trance-like and hallucinatory, filled with quasi-ostinati and micro-tonal explorations of the harmonic series. He was nearly unknown through most of his creative life. John Cage said of Scelsi, "He would make a whole piece that would be one sound. Constantly changing, but still just one sound. I loved his music....it's the experience of the same thing being a different thing all the time." info: Thursday, April 4, 8pm, Jordan Hall, New England Conservatory, Boston, Mass. Free. Elena Hammel, piano; Jason Horowitz, violin. The Callithumpian Consort conducted by Stephen Drury. Y'all come. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:28:21 -0500 From: Wlt4@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Fave Zorn Message-ID: <960329202819_365496473@emout06.mail.aol.com> Well to keep the list going how about something really fannish: Vote for you favorite Zorn album. Mine is easily The Big Gundown. Lang Thompson http://members.aol.com/wlt4/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:38:29 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" To: Wlt4@aol.com Cc: zorn-list@xmission.com, proussel@ichips.intel.com Subject: Re: Fave Zorn Message-Id: <9603300138.AA44452@pdx144> On Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:28:21 -0500 wlt4@aol.com wrote: > > Well to keep the list going how about something really fannish: Vote for you > favorite Zorn album. Mine is easily The Big Gundown. > Mine is LOCUS SOLUS. Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 21:17:40 -0500 From: hl368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kurt Ralske) To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: Fave Zorn Message-Id: <199603300217.VAA09483@kanga.INS.CWRU.Edu> My favourite, really, really favourites are the ones that sound sooo much like me when I was a frustrated music fan in high school, listening to records when everyone else had CD players...that would have to be Praxis! ;0 oh, yeah, too bad the tracker revolution pretty much blows that stuff away, guess there's always Courderoy! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:51:19 -0600 (CST) From: Me To: Zorn Digest Subject: Favorite Zorn Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mine would have to be the original "Naked City" LP on Elektra. Twas my first ever Zorn record, and I find it to be a pretty nice sampler of some of the varied types of music that Zorn has tackled. Of course, it still is only the tip of the iceberg... Paul wesley@interaccess.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- GROOVE "Real individual self-expression is so rare, so rare, that when the ---------- person uses any kind of stimulant to maintain his emotional energy, one nation it always works against his expression." -Ornette Coleman ----------------------O(+>-Emancipation-1996?---------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:17:17 +0100 (MET) From: Torsten Nielsen To: zorn list Subject: Movies Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has Zorn written the music for any other movies than these?: The Elegant Spanking (?) Hoelderlin Comics (1994) Thieves Quartet (1994) Maohgai (1993) ... aka Sadistic City (1993) Golden Boat, The (1990) She Must Be Seeing Things (1987) White and Lazy (1986) If anybody has seen them, I would be very interested in hearing opinions! Can somebody recommend me some Shockabilly (or other Eugene Chadbourne) cds? Anybody heard the two new Big John Patton cds with Zorn? Jonas ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 08:41:08 -0800 From: sgust@art.edu (Stefan Gustafsson) To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: fave zorn Message-Id: <9603310841.ZM1571@hollis.art.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii well, my fave zorn album just has to be the 1st naked city album (if that counts as a zorn album) zegge -- Stefan Gustafsson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 08:43:11 -0800 From: sgust@art.edu (Stefan Gustafsson) To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Unidentified subject! Message-Id: <9603310843.ZM1710@hollis.art.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i've never heard about the album locus solus. what kind of music is on that one??? zegge -- Stefan Gustafsson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 11:06:31 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" To: sgust@art.edu (Stefan Gustafsson) Cc: zorn-list@xmission.com, proussel@ichips.intel.com Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! Message-Id: <9603301906.AA32366@pdx144> On Sun, 31 Mar 1996 08:43:11 -0800 sgust@art.edu wrote: > > i've never heard about > the album locus solus. > what kind of music is > on that one??? One of the most crazed record ever made! And for me the sign that Zorn was getting completely out of the European improvised influence to create a completely new genre of music. The record was originally issued on Frith's Rift label in 1983. To my knowledge, it was the first time that Zorn was using rock music elements (thanks to Arto Linday) in his music. The pieces are very short and features four different lineups. Even Zorn agrees that it is weird stuff (his comment on the Japanese reissue)! "The Violent Death Of Dutch Schultz" might be one of the most amazing pieces Zorn ever did. Even 13 years after, the music is still new and urgent (not the slighest trace of self-indulgence). If anybody had a doubt that Zorn was pushing boundaries, listening to LOCUS SOLUS should answer them. I thought it was an amazing record 13 years ago; I still do. Patrice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 013 - LOCUS SOLUS: John Zorn 1/ Bass And The Treble 2:51 2/ The Acquisition & Control Of Fire 1:30 3/ Honey-Cab 2:30 4/ Switch 2:06 5/ Juan Talks It Out Of His System 2:07 6/ The Wish 2:00 7/ A Case Arose 1:53 8/ The Elf 1:37 Recorded February 1983 at Transistor 8 Studio, New York City, NY by Michael Lytle Peter Blegvad: vocals; Christian Marclay: phonograph and recycled records; John Zorn: alto, soprano, clarinets, game calls. 9/ Getting Curly 1:45 10/ Don't Switch 1:44 11/ Smooth Cheeks Of A Big Ego 1:45 12/ Add Water 2:05 13/ Cold 1:26 14/ Friar T 0:53 15/ Too Me 2:06 16/ You Rang? 1:06 17/ Self-Satisfied 1:11 18/ Agora 0:48 19/ Dot Dot, Dot 1:06 20/ Moi Non Plus 1:32 21/ Liver 1:35 22/ "The Footman's Eyes Get Crossed" 0:59 Tracks (9-15) recorded April 1983 at OAO Studio, Brooklyn, NY Martin Bisi Tracks (16-22) recorded live at PLUGG, April 1983 by Stevie McAllister Arto Lindsay: guitar, vocals; Anton Fier: drums; John Zorn: alto, soprano, clarinets, game calls. 23/ Heike Cipher Mystery 1:40 24/ Jedi Mind Trick 1:02 25/ Mysterious Island 2:03 James Bond Trilogy 26/ You Only Live Twice, Mr. Bond 1:53 27/ When Arrows Meet 1:35 28/ Never Say Never Again 1:38 29/ Sign Of The Four 2:04 30/ Locus Solus (parts 1 & 2) 2:06 Recorded May 1983 at OAO Studio, Brooklyn, NY by Martin Bisi Wayne Horvitz: organ, electronics; Ikue Mori: drums; John Zorn: alto, sopra- no, clarinets, game calls. 31/ Where Are My Victims ? 1:59 32/ Disco Volante 2:00 33/ Kaiser In Borneo 1:41 34/ The Saint 1:33 35/ The Violent Death Of Dutch Schultz 1:16 36/ Thunderball 1:38 37/ White Zombie 1:23 38/ The Slaves Of Vesuvius 1:51 Recorded September 1983 at OAO Studio, Brooklyn, NY by Martin Bisi Whiz Kid: turntable; M.E. Miller: drums, vocals, Linn drums, congas; John Zorn: alto, soprano, clarinets, game calls, whistling. 1983 - Rift (USA), Rift 007 (2xLP) 1991 - Eva/Wave (Japan), WWCX 2035 (CD) 1995 - Tzadik (USA), TZ 7303 (CD) 1995 - Evva (Japan), evva 33003 (CD) Note: (16,18,20,22) are extra tracks not available on the vinyl edition. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 13:02:05 +0000 From: "Andy Chang" To: mcolonne@biomed.med.yale.edu (Matt Colonnese) CC: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: Masada recomend Message-Id: <199603301912.NAA17294@bluestem.prairienet.org> On 28 Mar 96 at 12:34, zorn-list@xmission.com wrote: > So I'm gonna break down and stop waiting for a domestic release of Masada > (unless someone knows about an upcomming release) and I wanted to get some > advice as to which one or two would be the best to have. In particular I > would like to get an exposure to as wide a range of what this group can do; > i.e. the most representative disk as opposed to the most extreme. > Thanks much, > matt I don't know how representative it is, but I happen to like the third one (Gimel) a whole bunch. Speaking of which, is the CD-3 mail in offer completely null and void? I'm also a little curious about 5 & 6 sinch my local record store doesn't stock them. Anyone care to elaborate? andy ************************************************* Grab the kids and head to: andy chang's SUPERDEFORMED ACTION CITY http://www.prairienet.org/~mothra/homepage.html ************************************************* -------------------------------- End of zorn-list-digest Digest V96 Issue #8 *******************************************