From xmission.com!zorn-list-digest-request Tue Apr 9 07:03:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from xmission.xmission.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0u6dpi-0003wVC; Tue, 9 Apr 96 06:51 PDT Received: (from root@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) id HAA13884; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 07:46:24 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 07:46:24 -0600 (MDT) From: zorn-list-digest-request@xmission.com Message-Id: <199604091346.HAA13884@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: zorn-list-digest Digest V96 #9 X-Loop: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com X-Mailing-List: archive/volume96/9 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com Status: RO ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain zorn-list-digest Digest Volume 96 : Issue 9 Today's Topics: masada 4/5/96 [ IOUaLive1@aol.com ] mailorder [ Torsten Nielsen Just got back from seeing Masada at the Knitting Factory. They couldnt have played better; it was outstanding. But they werent playing on the stage like most bands do- no, they were on the floor. There were tables and chairs on the stage and on the floor. And there was one light shining down on them, mostly on Joey. Guess John wanted a more intimate setting. Here's GOOD NEWS: This Wednesday, the 10th, Bill Frisell will be doing a solo performance between Masada sets AND he will be sitting in during Masada's second set!! YES!!!!!YES!!!!!!!!! Does it show that I'm happy? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:42:50 +0200 (METDST) From: Torsten Nielsen To: zorn list Subject: mailorder Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anybody know any good mailorder places for Trigram, God Mountain and Toy's Factory Records? Jonas ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 11:01:17 -0500 From: PrelapseMF@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Loud Music Message-ID: <960406110116_507133370@emout07.mail.aol.com> Just a little something for those of you up here in the northeast. The Loud Music Festival in Northampton, Mass. is happening from April 17-20. There will be over 200 bands playing at night and panel discussions in the day. Of interest here will be the Knitting Factory Stage on the 18th. Zorn will be playing (possibly duets w/ Mike Patton), other NYC scenesters will be brought up, and my group, Prelapse, will be playing. My group will be performing pieces written for Naked City, including world premiers, reworkings of older material, and possibly some original stuff too. This is all the info I have, but y'all can call (617) 232-2489 ext.5683 or 1-800-843-8425 for directions and tix. Hope to see you there! Mason ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 10:39:50 -0800 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" To: Torsten Nielsen Cc: zorn list , proussel@ichips.intel.com Subject: Re: mailorder Message-Id: <9604061839.AA43492@pdx144> On Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:42:50 +0200 (METDST) zoopsi@inet.uni-c.dk wrote: > > Anybody know any good mailorder places for Trigram, God Mountain and > Toy's Factory Records? You might try (I got Toy's Factory's records from them): ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ JAPAN OVERSEAS 6-1-21 Ueshio Tennoji-Ku Osaka 543 Japan Specialized in hard to find Japanese records. Prices are high and you should check with the others before and rely on J.O. only ... when you can- not get it otherwise. PAYMENT: Payment in Japanese Yen or US Dollars is required prior to shipment. (USA people, please, pay in US Dollars.) $$$ PAYMENT IN US DOLLARS $$$ Send Money Order payable to "SHAO-YING WU", or cash in registered envelope. BY AIR (2 to 3 weeks) TO USA: CD, 7": $5 for one, add $3 for each additional. LP, 12": $9 for one, add $6 for each additional. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 18:53:00 -0500 (EST) From: NEC_DRURY@FLO.ORG To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Loud Music and the Prelapsarian Collective Message-Id: <960406185300.6f4e@FLO.ORG> Steve sez, check these guys out -- they are smokin'! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 16:07:28 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Scofield To: "Patrice L. Roussel" Cc: Torsten Nielsen , zorn list , proussel@ichips.intel.com Subject: Re: mailorder Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can also try Forced Exposure...they for sure distribute God Mountain. While yer at it, pick up Kirihito's _Da Vi De Bo_ on God Mountain. Thouroughly wonderful, one of the most original bands out there. Got to see them here in Olympia a monthe ago, and boy did they deliver! --c. On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, Patrice L. Roussel wrote: > > On Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:42:50 +0200 (METDST) zoopsi@inet.uni-c.dk wrote: > > > > Anybody know any good mailorder places for Trigram, God Mountain and > > Toy's Factory Records? > > You might try (I got Toy's Factory's records from them): > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > JAPAN OVERSEAS > 6-1-21 Ueshio > Tennoji-Ku > Osaka 543 > Japan > > Specialized in hard to find Japanese records. Prices are high and you > should check with the others before and rely on J.O. only ... when you can- > not get it otherwise. > > PAYMENT: > > Payment in Japanese Yen or US Dollars is required prior to shipment. > (USA people, please, pay in US Dollars.) > > $$$ PAYMENT IN US DOLLARS $$$ > Send Money Order payable to "SHAO-YING WU", or cash in registered > envelope. > > BY AIR (2 to 3 weeks) > > TO USA: > > CD, 7": $5 for one, add $3 for each additional. > LP, 12": $9 for one, add $6 for each additional. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 17:01:54 -0800 From: seanter@ix.netcom.com (Sean Terwilliger ) To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: mailorder Message-Id: <199604070101.RAA20291@dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com> You wrote: > >You can also try Forced Exposure...they for sure distribute God >Mountain. Any idea how one could contact these folks? Do they have a catalog? Thanks, Sean ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 01:40:17 -0600 From: pmcarey@students.wisc.edu (Patrick Carey) To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: mailorder Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Forced Exposure... >Any idea how one could contact these folks? Do they have a catalog? 3 Ways ... 1) Email: fe@shore.net 2) Phone: (617) 629-4773 3) Mail: Forced Exposure P.O. Box 9102 Waltham, MA 02254-9102 Yup, they've got catalogs, email updates etc ... I know they carry both God Mountain & Trigram. I picked up Ground Zero's "Revolutionary Pekinese Opera" from them last year ... -Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 10:13:05 -0400 From: Stikmanjim@aol.com To: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com Subject: Masada at the Knit. Message-ID: <960407101304_370703115@emout09.mail.aol.com> I caught two Masada shows this weekend- Truely wonderful performances. I had front row last night in front of Joey Baron. the highlight of the show for me was "Beer Sheba" from Masada 6. Is it just me, or does Joey steal the show? He's incredible. A couple questions: 1) Who is the guy I see at every Zorn show in the front row that tapes the concert? He's very noticable with a microphone stand right in front of him. 2)Why is Greg Cohen's right hand purple? It looks like he has no circulation... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 10:13:14 -0400 From: Stikmanjim@aol.com To: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com Subject: Worst Zorn album Message-ID: <960407101314_370703156@emout04.mail.aol.com> Where's the controvery and dialogue with "what's Zorn's best album?" That's dull. How about, what the most intollerable Zorn thing to listen too? I would have to say, hands down for me would be ABSINTHE. I purchased Absinthe & Radio together, and refused to play Absinthe until I completely digested Radio. Well after about a month, I put Absinthe on, sat back in a chair with a set of headphones cranked up. I remember thinking, ok, like the music is gonna start any minute, and then like an hour later the CD was over. Now of course somebody is making some type of false conclusion that i don't think Absinthe is music, which would be wrong, since I percieve all of reality to be music, except of course Neil Diamond. Later Zorn-ites - Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 10:13:18 -0400 From: Stikmanjim@aol.com To: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com Subject: Good Radio Message-ID: <960407101317_370703171@emout07.mail.aol.com> HEy I heard a Bailey/Zorn/William Parker cut on the radio(wow!) the other day, but I don't recall the name, but it's a new release. Improv stuff, reminiscent of the show I saw them do at the Knitting factory last year, except the show included Dougie bowne on drums, what I heard on the radio is drumless. As to Zorn being on the radio, I live in the New York City area. If you do to, here are some shows/stations to check out: 1. Afternoon Music on 89.9 fm Monday, tuesday, and Wednesday(I think) the show is some time between 2 and 6 pm. They play lots of Downtown, improvisational, eclectic stuff. 2. New Sounds: 93.9 Fm every night, 11:00 PM. Truely a great show that includes a lot of World Music, electonic music, Jazz, post-classical, music for computers, New age and more. I've heard Zorn cuts on the show, as well as Frith, Baron, Braxton, Cage, Frisell, Horvitz. 3. Hearts of Space: Ambient music FRiday nights, MIdnight, 93.9 FM...Laswell sometimes. 4. Jazz Alternatives MOnday thru FRiday WXCR FM 89.9 FM 6-10 pm. Lots of traditional Jazz, but they do play some cool stuff sometimes. I just heard a whole evening with David S Ware on this show a few days ago. 5. Profiles in Jazz Sunday afternoon WXCR FM 89.9 2-6 PM . They profile one artist for the whole show. They do some Avant Garde people sometimes (Derek Bailey etc.) and also I heard a great show featuring Ronald Shannon Jackson last year (some great Last Exit stuff). Also I have two recorded interviews with Zorn, Masada 4, and a live show or two. Any tape traders out there? e-mail me: Stikmanjim@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 12:07:02 -0700 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" To: NEC_DRURY@FLO.ORG Cc: zorn-list@xmission.com, proussel@ichips.intel.com Subject: Re: Loud Music and the Prelapsarian Collective Message-Id: <9604071907.AA38115@pdx144> On Sat, 6 Apr 1996 18:53:00 -0500 (EST) nec_drury@flo.org wrote: > > Steve sez, check these guys out -- they are smokin'! Do they have recordings? Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: 07 Apr 1996 04:18:08 GMT From: shiurba@sfbayguardian.com (John Shiurba) To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: eugene chadbourne and zorn Message-Id: <2810499069.16824855@sfbayguardian.com> eugene chadbourne was just here in the bay area for about a week playing a bunch of shows. he stayed at my house for a few nights and i was working on an article for the bay guardian so i got to interview him at length. one thing i asked him about was his experience with zorn and how he felt about the book of heads. i had heard rumors that the two of them had some bad feelings and that the feeling among the musicians who knew JZ and EC at the time was that zorn ripped chadbourne off right and left and that EC would confirm this if i asked him about it. well i asked him and he had only positive things to say about zorn, and literally laughed at the accusation that zorn had ripped him off. he commented on how zorn's level of perfectionism and his interest in super fast musical changes eventually led them apart musically, but he displayed nothing but respect for zorn and said that he would consider working together again if the right opportunity arose. he also gave me a tape of a forthcoming cd (to be released on derek bailey's label, incus) of zorn and chadbourne duos from 1980. it's really amazing stuff, all improvised and pretty unlike the parachute records they made together. chadbourne expressed regret that more of the improvisations they played together had never seen the light of day. shiurba ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Apr 96 04:20:52 +0000 From: shiurba@sfbayguardian.com (John Shiurba) To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: new jim staley Message-ID: <19960407133447.0585933e.ig@sfbayguardian.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i just notice this in cadence: jim staley: "northern dancer" w/zorn, sharp, parkins (einstein) has anyone seen or heard this? shiurba ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 10:37:57 -0400 From: PrelapseMF@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: Loud Music and the Prelapsarian Collective Message-ID: <960408103755_371289109@emout10.mail.aol.com> Hi y'all I wanted to clear up a possible misconception concerning my last post. The "Knitting Factory stage" at the Loud Music Festival (where Zorn, Anthony Coleman, Prelapse, others are playing on april 18) will be somewhere in Northampton, Massachussettes. NOT in the Knitting Factory in NYC. Call the Loud Music people for tix/directions: 1(617) 232-2489 ext.5683 or 1-800-843-8425. Somebody asked about the "new" NC tunes. Technically, there aren't any new tunes (except the ones I wrote! ;-) These are tunes that Zorn wrote for NC but for whatever reason never recorded/rehearsed, or got around to them. Most of them would feel very comfortable on the Grand Guignol or Radio albums. A lot of the titles have the word "Blood" somewhere in them. My group "Prelapse" should have a CD featuring this music out in a number of months. No specifics yet, there are still a lot of details left to work out.;-) Mason ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:04:59 -0400 From: Egg1000@aol.com To: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: New Staley CD, etc. Message-ID: <960408120458_464886530@mail06> My posts to this bulletin board have not been reaching their final destination, and I have no clue as to why. I'll continue to post in spite of this, though, and hope that things work themselves out. I saw the new Staley CD the other day, and it appears as if Zorn only performed on one of the tracks. The listing in Cadence doesn't surprise me (in listing Zorn as a contributor), as the same thing was done for Staley's reissue of his "Mumbo Jumbo" recording, which again featured Zorn and listed him first among contributors when in fact he only played on two or three tracks. I also saw the second volume of the "Collasal Saxophone Sessions" recording, which looked as if it had about three performances by Zorn (I think that he showed up twice on volume one). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 09:56:28 -0700 From: "Patrice L. Roussel" To: Egg1000@aol.com Cc: zorn-list@xmission.com, proussel@ichips.intel.com Subject: Re: New Staley CD, etc. Message-Id: <9604081656.AA43976@pdx144> On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 12:04:59 -0400 egg1000@aol.com wrote: > > My posts to this bulletin board have not been reaching their final > destination, and I have no clue as to why. I'll continue to post in spite of > this, though, and hope that things work themselves out. I saw the new Staley > CD the other day, and it appears as if Zorn only performed on one of the > tracks. The listing in Cadence doesn't surprise me (in listing Zorn as a > contributor), as the same thing was done for Staley's reissue of his "Mumbo > Jumbo" recording, which again featured Zorn and listed him first among > contributors when in fact he only played on two or three tracks. I also saw > the second volume of the "Collasal Saxophone Sessions" recording, which > looked as if it had about three performances by Zorn (I think that he showed > up twice on volume one). You are confusing me. The Evidence 2xCD is the reissue of the two Japanese volumes on King Records/Paddle Wheel. Are you really saying that there is a second volume with 2xCD again? Patrice. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 08:40:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "James A. Ross" To: zorn-list@xmission.com cc: zorn-list@xmission.com Subject: Re: Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII does anybody know of recordings of zorn and M.Patton besides the Bungle Cd's? 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